E36M3 #5485

Thursday, November 01, 2007 12:05:06

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Headliner Advice - from Jay G
#2. RE: [E36M3] Re: Holey oilpan - from Goss, Patrick - PA
#3. RE: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt - from Goss, Patrick - PA
#4. carfax needed- Got it, THANKS! - from Ed MacVaugh
#5. advice on media-blasting brake calipers and pistons - from Chris Papademetrious
#6. Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt - from Jeff Conner
#7. alcantera wheel with stitching - from Ken Kloess
#8. Re: [E36M3] advice on media-blasting brake calipers and pistons - from Andrew Kalman
#9. FS: E36 M3 sedan - from Grant Fairweather
#10. Re: [E36M3] Steering wheel, and exhaust - from Chris Papademetrious

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Headliner Advice - from Jay G
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Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 02:07:29 -1000 From: Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Headliner Advice yep... Bill Sharp wrote: > > Are you saying I can perhaps find an upholstery shop and they'll remove, > glue and reinstall it for somewhere South of say, $400? >

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Re: Holey oilpan - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:41:10 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Holey oilpan Paul, get out of my head, I was thinking the same thing but 2 days ago. I sent an e-mail to vac asking details about welding or not. They haven't replied yet, I do remember a year or so ago someone posting to list the vac didn't necessarily require welding, but in lieu of doing so didn't detail how it was fastened. Either way we should plan some group purchase/install work. Let's keep our heads together on this thought, I'm planning doing this along with the motor mounts, and reinforcement also this winter, now that my garage door is insulated. Maybe Mark D, and Bob Gill will join us in the initiative also. Its my turn to buy the tools required, (engine support, spot weld drill bit), or I can shuttle my father's cherry picker after I visit for the holidays. Let me know if you get an answer privately about the vac kit and welding requirement. In addition, I'd like to know the perf difference between vac and the one turner sells, as they are priced identically. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Griffith [mailto:ctgriffit@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:24 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Holey oilpan Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Griffith <ctgriffit@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Holey oilpan I believe both the VAC kit and Turner's kit have to be welded in. From what I understand, it's not a big deal for someone who has the correct equipment to weld aluminum. I choose to install the $$$ LTW dual pickup oil pan. I did the entire install myself ~6 mos. ago, so if you have any questions or want to discuss, contact me offline. Chris G. Dinan S2 ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul Andrews <emosound@verizon.net> To: Christopher Griffith <ctgriffit@yahoo.com>; E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:08:05 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Holey oilpan Does the VAC oil pan baffle that BimmerWorld sells have to be welded in? If so, how tricky is that? Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU ************************************************* All of Neil's recommendations are good ones. But, don't foget to get the new (used) oil pan baffled too! Unless you absolutely will never ever autox or track the car. If you do, now's the time to do it. List supporters Bimmerworld or TMS can get you everything you need to get this job done. HTH, Chris G. Dinan S2 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#3. RE: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:41:10 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt No. -----Original Message----- From: Kent L. Shephard [mailto:e36m3@kshephard.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:55 PM To: Goss, Patrick - PA Cc: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt Huh? Don't you mean the other way around?? On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Goss, Patrick - PA wrote: > > > 6pts are the tools of the devil, 12 pts only! > > Patrick >

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#4. carfax needed- Got it, THANKS! - from Ed MacVaugh
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Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:42:33 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <macvaugh@comcast.net> Subject: carfax needed- Got it, THANKS! TIA, Ed

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#5. advice on media-blasting brake calipers and pistons - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:54:45 -0400 From: "Chris Papademetrious" <chrispitude@gmail.com> Subject: advice on media-blasting brake calipers and pistons Hi all, While attempting to replace my brake pads, I noticed that the calipers could use a rebuild after 172k miles. I also decided that since they'll be off the car, I may as well blast and paint them with VHT caliper paint. A buddy has a Harbor Freight blast cabinet with glass bead media, and he offered its use. I took the calipers and brackets off the car and plugged the brake line openings with bolts. I did not pop the pistons out yet, as I felt it would be best to blast the outside first, then open them up. The calipers and brackets are pretty nasty from 12 years, many of which have involved winter driving duty. The glass bead media took a fairly long time to clean up our test caliper, and I'd call it passable at best. At this rate, it will take hours to complete all eight pieces. We are thinking of switching over to play sand to see how that works. He said play sand worked much better when he blasted an old rusty exhaust manifold from a turbo car. My primary question is, what's the best way to clean the pistons themselves? I can probably blast the inner surfaces of the pistons with sand to clean them up, but I may hold off on cleaning the slight bit of exposed piston sides until they are out of the calipers. I was thinking of popping the pistons, taping off the hydraulic surfaces up to the seal very tightly with layers of electrical tape, and cleaning up the tops/edges. Does anyone have any advice on the best way to clean up the pistons? Judging from what I can see so far, a Scotchbrite pad could be an exercise in futility... - Chris

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt - from Jeff Conner
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Bolt I've found that I like 6-pt sockets, for the torquing ability, and 12-pt wrenches, for their more angles of use in very tight spaces. That being said, I don't think I'd ever try to remove a burly bolt (tranny fluid, diff, wheel lug, etc) with any tool that had more points than the bolt/nut I was trying to remove. -jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> No. -----Original Message----- From: Kent L. Shephard [mailto:e36m3@kshephard.com] Huh? Don't you mean the other way around?? On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Goss, Patrick - PA wrote: > > 6pts are the tools of the devil, 12 pts only! > > Patrick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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#7. alcantera wheel with stitching - from Ken Kloess
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:45:36 -0500 From: "Ken Kloess" <drken@htc.net> Subject: alcantera wheel with stitching Richard, Would your source for the acantera wheel recovering be interested in doing another? I have a euro three spoke steering wheel on which the leather has seen better days. I'd also like to get the tri-color stitching added. Thanks! Ken Kloess

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#8. Re: [E36M3] advice on media-blasting brake calipers and pistons - from Andrew Kalman
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:54:15 -0700 From: Andrew Kalman <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] advice on media-blasting brake calipers and pistons To be honest, Chris, most folks would advise you to just buy rebuilt calipers (I assume NAPA has them). Blasting the pistons will probably result in highly accelerated wear to the piston seals, with attendant catastrophic risk of brake failure. OTOH, there are folks who rebuild calipers and I suspect they start with some pretty awful-looking ones. Be careful. P.S. With 100psi behind it I haven't encountered anything I couldn't clean in a LARGE media blasting cabinet, with glass beads. --Andrew >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:54:45 -0400 >From: "Chris Papademetrious" <chrispitude@gmail.com> >Subject: advice on media-blasting brake calipers and pistons > >Hi all, > >While attempting to replace my brake pads, I noticed that the calipers >could use a rebuild after 172k miles. I also decided that since >they'll be off the car, I may as well blast and paint them with VHT >caliper paint. A buddy has a Harbor Freight blast cabinet with glass >bead media, and he offered its use. > >I took the calipers and brackets off the car and plugged the brake >line openings with bolts. I did not pop the pistons out yet, as I >felt it would be best to blast the outside first, then open them up. > >The calipers and brackets are pretty nasty from 12 years, many of >which have involved winter driving duty. The glass bead media took a >fairly long time to clean up our test caliper, and I'd call it >passable at best. At this rate, it will take hours to complete all >eight pieces. We are thinking of switching over to play sand to see >how that works. He said play sand worked much better when he blasted >an old rusty exhaust manifold from a turbo car. > >My primary question is, what's the best way to clean the pistons >themselves? I can probably blast the inner surfaces of the pistons >with sand to clean them up, but I may hold off on cleaning the slight >bit of exposed piston sides until they are out of the calipers. I was >thinking of popping the pistons, taping off the hydraulic surfaces up >to the seal very tightly with layers of electrical tape, and cleaning >up the tops/edges. > >Does anyone have any advice on the best way to clean up the pistons? >Judging from what I can see so far, a Scotchbrite pad could be an >exercise in futility... > > - Chris > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com

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#9. FS: E36 M3 sedan - from Grant Fairweather
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:34:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Grant Fairweather <grantfairweather@sbcglobal.net> Subject: FS: E36 M3 sedan List, A few weeks ago, I sold my E36 M3 sedan and as such, am near the end of my tenure on this great list. I contemplated selling it privately, but a situation arose with another car that I couldn't pass up, so I traded her in. That being said, I found out that it was flipped by my new car dealer and is now in the hands of a local used car dealer. I stopped by to visit, and she looks sad and unloved. If anyone is in the market for a 98 M3 sedan, Silver over black, 84k miles, let me know and I can provide all the maintenance and modification history on her: http://www.autotrader.com/dealers/dda/detail.jsp?car_id=232065013&dealer_id=57847439&car_year=1998&dealership_view_name=eliteil& result_car_id=231745046&sort_type=make_modelASC&cardist=0 Happy Motoring, Grant Fairweather Chicago 'burbs

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Steering wheel, and exhaust - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:56:10 -0400 From: "Chris Papademetrious" <chrispitude@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Steering wheel, and exhaust Hi Richard, I have a spare M3 steering wheel sitting around, and this recovering sounds like a great use for it! Tell us more, and send pictures when you get it. Dare I say "group buy"? :) On a related note, did the one you bought come with an airbag, and did the shipper take any special steps to ship it? I'm curious what's involved in shipping a steering wheel with an airbag. - Chris On 10/31/07, Richard Sperry <richardsperry@comcast.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:41:02 -0400 > From: "Richard Sperry" <richardsperry@comcast.net> > Subject: Steering wheel, and exhaust > > Steering wheel: I know of a guy that will remove the leather, and replace > it with Alcantara complete with the TRI color motorsport stitching. I'm > about to send him one I got on Fleebay. $50... nicce. The squeek is from the > steering shaft like everyone has said, lube it.

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