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#1. clutch info - from RFKoby@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:43:16 EST From: RFKoby@aol.com Subject: clutch info Hi Matt (and group) The stack height from mounting surface to the top of the pressure plate fingers is 80mm. I have spare / old parts from both 325i and M3 (95 3.0) assembled. 80mm is the fully assembled stack up height. flywheels and clutches are similar across 325 and M3 with the exception of diameter... bob from Bob's Garage Ma'Hal In a message dated 11/23/2007 12:30:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, e36m3@bmw-m.net writes: -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:55:11 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Weimer <mjweimer@yahoo.com> Subject: Need flywheel/clutch info for '96 and later 3.2 Group, This may be a long shot....I am looking for someone who has a stock flywheel and clutch set-up from a '96 and later 3.2 M3 laying around. More specifically, I need a couple of measurements taken of the stack height of the assembled unit from the tip of the pressure plate fingers to either the crank mounting face or the ring gear. A couple of pictures would be helpful as well but not necessary. Please contact me directly if you think you can help and I can provide more detailed info. This is for a BMW project but not M3 related. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving. Matt Weimer Hoosier Chapter '95 M3 '01 325iT **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Harnesses - from Marc Plante
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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:17:49 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Harnesses A lot of instructors will not ride with you if you use harnesses w/o a rollbar. There's danger of a roof cave in a roll. The setup I've seen fairly often as a compromise is rear rollbar and harness. That leaves the car streetable and provides a pivot point other than your neck in a roll. I've been very happy with my SRDs, but I only weigh 135. YMMV on sizing. I also have a 4 dr, so rear seat access isn't an issue, but consider fold-able seats in a coupe. Finally, pay attention to seat height. A lot of aftermarket stuff sits very low in the car. May be a factor if your wife who drives the car on occasion is only 5'2" Marc Plante 1997 E36 M3/4/5 81k 2005 Child (Lydia) 2007 Child (Henry) Vienna, VA
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Harnesses - from DocWyte
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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:02:48 -0700 From: DocWyte <docwyte@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Harnesses This is a myth that just won't die. Talk to Joe Marko@HMS about the safety of the Schroth DOT ASM harnesses. Marc Plante wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:17:49 -0500 > From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Harnesses > > A lot of instructors will not ride with you if you use harnesses w/o a > rollbar. There's danger of a roof cave in a roll. The setup I've > seen fairly often as a compromise is rear rollbar and harness. That > leaves the car streetable and provides a pivot point other than your > neck in a roll. > > I've been very happy with my SRDs, but I only weigh 135. YMMV on sizing. > > I also have a 4 dr, so rear seat access isn't an issue, but consider > fold-able seats in a coupe. > > Finally, pay attention to seat height. A lot of aftermarket stuff > sits very low in the car. May be a factor if your wife who drives the > car on occasion is only 5'2" > > Marc Plante > 1997 E36 M3/4/5 81k > 2005 Child (Lydia) > 2007 Child (Henry) > Vienna, VA > > > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Wilwood Breaks - from David Ngo
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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:43:00 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Wilwood Breaks Really? My kit uses the standard 1-piece rotor and a stock 8.5" wheel up front will not fit without 10mm spacers. Dave ----- Original Message ---- From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:34:42 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Wilwood Breaks Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:33:24 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Wilwood Breaks Rich, It *should*. The wilwood kit I have uses the 2 piece 325mm rotor and it fits stock wheels no problem. If the RGRs have a 38-41 mm offset (too much turkey & wine has made me lazy this morning) the same -that they fit no problem - should be true. -jeff ----- Original Message ---- Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:29:11 -0500 From: "Richard Sperry" <richardsperry@comcast.net> Subject: Wilwood Breaks Pinging Rob L, or anyone that hapens to know. Will the UUC / Wilwood brake kit fit on an 95 E36 M3 with BBS 17x8 RG-r's without using spacers? Thanks it. Thanks, Rich ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#5. Fw: [E36M3] Wilwood Breaks - from David Ngo
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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:44:01 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Fw: [E36M3] Wilwood Breaks Really? My kit uses the standard 1-piece rotor and a stock 8.5" wheel up front will not fit without 10mm spacers. Dave ----- Original Message ---- From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:34:42 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Wilwood Breaks Rich, It *should*. The wilwood kit I have uses the 2 piece 325mm rotor and it fits stock wheels no problem. If the RGRs have a 38-41 mm offset (too much turkey & wine has made me lazy this morning) the same -that they fit no problem - should be true. -jeff ----- Original Message ---- Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:29:11 -0500 From: "Richard Sperry" <richardsperry@comcast.net> Subject: Wilwood Breaks Pinging Rob L, or anyone that hapens to know. Will the UUC / Wilwood brake kit fit on an 95 E36 M3 with BBS 17x8 RG-r's without using spacers? Thanks it. Thanks, Rich
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Wilwood Breaks - from Jeff Conner
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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:22:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Wilwood Breaks I have the 1st gen kit that came with the two piece rotors. The newer kit is a slightly different setup. I use a 10mm spacer up front, but that's because the wheels won't clear the CG coilover strut. -jeff ----- Original Message ---- Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:44:01 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Fw: [E36M3] Wilwood Breaks Really? My kit uses the standard 1-piece rotor and a stock 8.5" wheel up front will not fit without 10mm spacers. Dave ----- Original Message ---- From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Rich, It *should*. The wilwood kit I have uses the 2 piece 325mm rotor and it fits stock wheels no problem. If the RGRs have a 38-41 mm offset (too much turkey & wine has made me lazy this morning) the same -that they fit no problem - should be true. -jeff ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Harnesses - from Marty
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Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:18:21 -0500 From: Marty <mfraiser@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Harnesses Matt, I think fixed racing seats require a roll bar and five+ point harnesses, and vice versa. i.e. it's an all or nothing system where all the parts must be present to properly function. You can't use racing harnesses w/o a roll bar since you can't bend over in a rollover. You can't properly use stock belts with a racing seat since the lap belt can't go through the holes and there's no crease for it to hug your hips properly. You may be able to get away with fixed seats, Schroth 4 point harnesses and no roll bar but not sure about that. You can use the non-fixed, reclining 'sport' seats, like the Recaro Speed, which are more supportive than Vaders, with 3 or 4 point belt/ harness and no roll bar. That's probably your best bet for more support while preserving street compatibility. Only some fixed seats are FIA homologated which isn't a requirement for HPDE safety. Your seats just need to be at least as good as stock. Doc is right about the persistent myth(s) about the Schroth four point harnesses I often had to explain why they were safe to people and organizations that frowned upon them. Most didn't know they use the stock pretensioners which helps prevent submarining and of course the ASM breakaway feature. They are tested and DOT approved with stock seats which a lot of people mistakenly thought would easily collapse. They are no less safe than HPDE-approved stock seat belts. I think they were being unfairly equated with 'tuner belts' or other restraints of questionable safety value. Some of your instructors might choose the stock belts if they don't trust the 4 points and you have both available. A rollbar and fixed seats definitely impinges on the car's usefulness off the track. No one can ride in the back and it's very difficult to access in a coupe. Definitely talk to Joe Marko @ HMS Motorsports to help make the right choices. You do not want to compromise your or your passengers' safety. marty '96 M3 - just happen to have some nice E36 Schroth quick-fit harnesses that could be for sale >>
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Harnesses - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:08:52 -0800 From: "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Harnesses On Nov 23, 2007 9:24 PM, Marty <mfraiser@embarqmail.com> wrote: > I think fixed racing seats require a roll bar and five+ point > harnesses, and vice versa. i.e. it's an all or nothing system where > all the parts must be present to properly function. > You can't use racing harnesses w/o a roll bar since you can't bend > over in a rollover. You can't properly use stock belts with a racing > seat since the lap belt can't go through the holes and there's no > crease for it to hug your hips properly. > You may be able to get away with fixed seats, Schroth 4 point > harnesses and no roll bar but not sure about that. As a data point, Porsche's GT3s, Honda's NSX Type Rs, and a host of other factory-tuned performance cars come from the factory with fixed back seats and no standard, extra roll-over protection. Additionally, they maintain the use of their standard three-point restraint systems. The Schroth ASM Harness are designed to work with the factory seats and restraint system. They are supposed to provide similar functionality in the event of an accident as the stock system. Drive Safely, Raza
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#9. WTB: Lightweight flywheel/clutch - from Kirk
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Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:39:09 -0800 From: "Kirk" <admranger@earthlink.net> Subject: WTB: Lightweight flywheel/clutch Anyone move from prepared to mod and have a ltw flywheel and clutch sitting around? Thx. Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Seats and Harnesses - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:17:05 -0500 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Seats and Harnesses On 11/23/07, Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> wrote: > So, I was thinking of getting some decent, but reasonably inexpensive seats > such as the Recaro SRD or Speed Speaking of which I have a black cloth Recaro SRD for sale. It has the Recaro embroidered in red on the head rest. I'll include a left hand side tckline adapter for an E36 and a Recaro slider. $500.00 for everything plus shipping from 48197. Seat was in my E30 and the E30 is gone. If you want that seat for an E30 I have the adapters and track for that also. :-) Carlos 98 M3 97 540i 6spd (E30 replacement)