E36M3 #5521

Friday, December 14, 2007 22:33:32

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#1. Track / Motorcycle Trailer For Sale - from Jeff Bjerke
#2. Re: WTB: BBS RCJ Wheels - from Evan Brown
#3. Re: [E36M3] 11 to 18 Button OBC Conversion - from David Michael
#4. Re: Kosei K'1 Wheels - People still like them? - from Shane Kleinpeter
#5. FS - Techno Violet Sedan - from kim.burgess@att.net
#6. Re: [E36M3] FS - Techno Violet Sedan - from Shelhart2@aol.com
#7. Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head - from Walter J
#8. Re: [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head - from Carlos Lopez
#9. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head - from Marco Romani
#10. Re: [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head - from Jon Siccardi - Treehouse

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#1. Track / Motorcycle Trailer For Sale - from Jeff Bjerke
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 1:07:54 -0500 From: Jeff Bjerke <jbjerke@charter.net> Subject: Track / Motorcycle Trailer For Sale I have a 4'x8' folding steel trailer for sale. Very light and tows behind an E36 M3 with no issues (can't even tell it's back there). 1/8" aluminum diamond plate flooring, removable side rails and aluminum locking diamond plate storage box in front. This trailer was built to carry all track day / racing equipment and easily converted to haul 1 to 3 motorcycles. There are 2 wheel chocks for motorcycles with three quick release mounts, (1) ramp and (3) rails. The rear of the trailer is designed to haul 4 track wheels/tires while the front can haul five 6-gallon gas cans, cooler, floor jack, 5th track wheel etc. along with the weatherproof box mounted in front for tools, lawn chairs etc. With removal of the box, the trailer can be stowed vertically when not in use. I can sell configured a number of different ways including a plywood floor, no front box and no motorcycle capability to as-is. Unfortunately, I only have a couple of pictures of the car which gives an idea of the trailer in the background. It is stored for the winter, but I can get some more pictures over the holiday. Will sell as-is with all accessories for $500. The diamond plate flooring and front box cost more than that alone. Can also deliver or meet at a reasonable distance from northern Illinois. Jeff Bjerke

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#2. Re: WTB: BBS RCJ Wheels - from Evan Brown
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:33:53 -0500 From: "Evan Brown" <shiftye23@comcast.net> Subject: Re: WTB: BBS RCJ Wheels I am still looking for 18" BBS RCJ wheels. Money in hand ready to buy!

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#3. Re: [E36M3] 11 to 18 Button OBC Conversion - from David Michael
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:41:16 -0500 From: "David Michael" <adavidmichael@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 11 to 18 Button OBC Conversion Jeff, Pelican parts has a procedure: http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/techarticles/E36-OBD_Convert/E36-OBD_Convert.htm there is also a long thread on the e36 boards http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87693&highlight=obc I have done it, and it is easy to do in principal, but hard to do if you want to wire it exactly like oem. All of the folks who say "its really easy and takes only 45 minutes" are using 3m wire splice doodads on the wire harness just behind the connectors that come out of the IC. I wired everything back to the main wiring junction box which is buried high up on the drivers side kick panel (above the hood release). Finding and ohming out the correct terminal blocks, routing the wires and making it look oem took a really long time. As it is, I still did not install the turn signal stalk control, and did not remove the glove box to hook up the alarm code wire. If you want to do the "right" way, I can send you some details on what I did. Dave 98 M3/4 96,000 90 200QA 220,000 On Dec 11, 2007 12:42 AM, Jeff Bjerke <jbjerke@charter.net> wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 0:32:49 -0500 > From: Jeff Bjerke <jbjerke@charter.net> > Subject: 11 to 18 Button OBC Conversion > > My 11 button OBC has some failing pixels and I just bought an 18 button > (thanks Stan!). This car is mainly a track car and it appears I can switch a > couple wires and hook up the 18 button OBC less the additional functions. > There appears to be conflicting stories about the difficulty of getting the > remaining functions to work. Part of it seems to be hooking up the stalk to > be able to cycle through the additional functions. > Is it fairly simple to add the remaining functions without the ability to > use the stalk? Anyone have a procedure for that and/or the simple wire > switch for the basic hook-up? > > Thanks- > Jeff > 98 Red/Blk Coupe > > > > >

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#4. Re: Kosei K'1 Wheels - People still like them? - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:15:28 -0800 (PST) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kosei K'1 Wheels - People still like them? I've had a single set of Kosei K1's that I've used on track since 2002 on my JP/ITS car. I've never had issues with bending or breaking them. However, I did switch them to rain tire duty a couple years back because I had issues with the lug holes not being large enough for my studs, which take 19mm nuts. I had to bore out the lug holes with a dremel tool to be able to even get a thin-wall socket on the nut. Since then I haven't had to use them much, but it was a real pain to get them so I could use them. Shane K. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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#5. FS - Techno Violet Sedan - from kim.burgess@att.net
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Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:12:47 +0000 From: kim.burgess@att.net Subject: FS - Techno Violet Sedan http://bmwpugetsound.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=36216

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#6. Re: [E36M3] FS - Techno Violet Sedan - from Shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:13:26 EST From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] FS - Techno Violet Sedan Nice car and great color combo with the dove interior. Price seems reasonable as well. Good luck. shel **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

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#7. Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head - from Walter J
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Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:34:05 -0500 From: "Walter J" <walter.gator@gmail.com> Subject: Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head A little back story: - A friend of mine had his head crack and so we sourced a clean S52 head and dropped it onto his S50 block. - The S52 uses a 4 pin (dual) temp sensor via a single port in the head to feed the CPU and gauge - The S50 uses 2 separate sensors to do the same job - I *could* just buy an S52 sensor and patch the wiring but... I have the sensor that the original CPU used installed in the head and, in theory, I only really care that the CPU gets a proper signal for controlling the mixture. Since we are using its original sender - it will be fine. That leaves the gauge... does anyone know if the gauge signal is the same as the one expected by the CPU? Or, to phrase better... does anyone know if the two in the S50 OBDI head have the same relative signal output such that feeding both from the same sending unit would work? My only real concern here is that the load from the gauge will sink the CPU signal and cause the software to dump fuel - but I secretly suspect that they use 2 senders only to dumb down the gauge's response to change and that by piggybacking the CPU signal I would get a real fluctuating needle on the dash in place of that numb "normal or overheated" reading we have now (albeit maybe out of range for the dash unit). Anyone tried it? -- Walter Jordan

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:10:11 -0500 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head On 12/14/07, Walter J <walter.gator@gmail.com> wrote: > does anyone know if the two in the S50 OBDI head have the > same relative signal output such that feeding both from the same > sending unit would work? Dunno, but here's your $50 simple solution: http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=TEN9989M50 Cheers, Carlos 98 M3 97 540i

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#9. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head - from Marco Romani
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Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:14:39 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head Turner sells an adapter. BTDT. But when I did it they didn't so I had to make my own I also mapped out the output from the three senders. The four prong duplicates the 2 two prong. See link http://www.corsa-na.com/E36%20M3 Marco -----Original Message----- From: Walter J [mailto:walter.gator@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:43 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:34:05 -0500 From: "Walter J" <walter.gator@gmail.com> Subject: Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head A little back story: - A friend of mine had his head crack and so we sourced a clean S52 head and dropped it onto his S50 block. - The S52 uses a 4 pin (dual) temp sensor via a single port in the head to feed the CPU and gauge - The S50 uses 2 separate sensors to do the same job - I *could* just buy an S52 sensor and patch the wiring but... I have the sensor that the original CPU used installed in the head and, in theory, I only really care that the CPU gets a proper signal for controlling the mixture. Since we are using its original sender - it will be fine. That leaves the gauge... does anyone know if the gauge signal is the same as the one expected by the CPU? Or, to phrase better... does anyone know if the two in the S50 OBDI head have the same relative signal output such that feeding both from the same sending unit would work? My only real concern here is that the load from the gauge will sink the CPU signal and cause the software to dump fuel - but I secretly suspect that they use 2 senders only to dumb down the gauge's response to change and that by piggybacking the CPU signal I would get a real fluctuating needle on the dash in place of that numb "normal or overheated" reading we have now (albeit maybe out of range for the dash unit). Anyone tried it? -- Walter Jordan ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head - from Jon Siccardi - Treehouse
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Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:24:21 -0600 From: "Jon Siccardi - Treehouse" <jon@treehouseracing.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head Just drill and tap a hole in the proper position. Works perfect EVERY time for me. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #053 TreehouseRacing.com M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter J" <walter.gator@gmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 8:42 AM Subject: [E36M3] Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:34:05 -0500 > From: "Walter J" <walter.gator@gmail.com> > Subject: Coolant sensor & gauge wiring S50 w/ S52 head > > A little back story: > > - A friend of mine had his head crack and so we sourced a clean S52 > head and dropped it onto his S50 block. > - The S52 uses a 4 pin (dual) temp sensor via a single port in the > head to feed the CPU and gauge > - The S50 uses 2 separate sensors to do the same job > - I *could* just buy an S52 sensor and patch the wiring but... > > I have the sensor that the original CPU used installed in the head > and, in theory, I only really care that the CPU gets a proper signal > for controlling the mixture. Since we are using its original sender - > it will be fine. That leaves the gauge... does anyone know if the > gauge signal is the same as the one expected by the CPU? Or, to phrase > better... does anyone know if the two in the S50 OBDI head have the > same relative signal output such that feeding both from the same > sending unit would work? > > My only real concern here is that the load from the gauge will sink > the CPU signal and cause the software to dump fuel - but I secretly > suspect that they use 2 senders only to dumb down the gauge's response > to change and that by piggybacking the CPU signal I would get a real > fluctuating needle on the dash in place of that numb "normal or > overheated" reading we have now (albeit maybe out of range for the > dash unit). > > Anyone tried it? > > -- > Walter Jordan > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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