E36M3 #5524

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:13:05

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust - from Rich Dorffer
#2. RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust - from Matt Bader
#3. Re: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust - from Mark D
#4. Re: Chicago help - Need car transported to CA - from steve crowl
#5. RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust - from Matt Bader
#6. Re: Rear Wheel Bearing Replacement - from Shane Kleinpeter
#7. Re: Rear Wheel Bearing Replacement - from Neil Maller
#8. Re: Rear Wheel Bearing Replacement - from Jeff Conner
#9. Clutch master replacement options - from Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)
#10. RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust - from Mike Frank

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#1. [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:37:21 -0500 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust > > From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> > > Nice exhaust. One thing you will find is the exhaust will quiet down a bit > after a week or so. I think the packing in the resonators breaks in or > something... > When I started mine and drove it the first time, it was a lot louder than > I > thought it would be. > There is no packing or sound deadening material in the exhaust. > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > I drove the Corsa-equipped Mcar a lot this morning. It is a bit loud, but > not obnoxious, and as Dave says, it might calm down a bit. At freeway > speeds there is no droning, and at WOT it sounds great! > There is no droning, the exhaust is properly made and tuned. Regards, Rich

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust - from Matt Bader
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:55:37 -0500 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust The installation instructions do say that the exhaust will be louder cold than when the exhaust system is at normal operating temperature. -----Original Message----- From: Rich Dorffer [mailto:E36M3Digest@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:43 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:37:21 -0500 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust > > From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> > > Nice exhaust. One thing you will find is the exhaust will quiet down a bit > after a week or so. I think the packing in the resonators breaks in or > something... > When I started mine and drove it the first time, it was a lot louder than > I > thought it would be. > There is no packing or sound deadening material in the exhaust. > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > I drove the Corsa-equipped Mcar a lot this morning. It is a bit loud, but > not obnoxious, and as Dave says, it might calm down a bit. At freeway > speeds there is no droning, and at WOT it sounds great! > There is no droning, the exhaust is properly made and tuned. Regards, Rich ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust - from Mark D
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:19:30 -0500 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust Matt Bader wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:08:11 -0500 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust > > My Eclipse Turbo, with a great sounding after market exhaust, was not kind > to car alarms. I had a 1990 GSX which, for its time was a great car, and > with a huge aftermarket following. > > I drove the Corsa-equipped Mcar a lot this morning. It is a bit loud, but > not obnoxious, and as Dave says, it might calm down a bit. At freeway > speeds there is no droning, and at WOT it sounds great! > > Matt > All this talk about exhaust makes me feel I should perk up and speak about the solid mounts I installed into my 3000GT. To put it simple, don't do it. It's fine under speed and even cruising but at idle it resonates and shakes the whole interior like twin 12 inch subs throttling your brain at full volume. I increased the idle to 1100RPM so I could stand the car :-P All this just to save $100. (the solids were cheaper). Makes me glad I'm not so cheap with my M3. The M3 is IMHO super quiet. The 3000GT has a replacement sport downpipe and with that alone it's pretty loud. I'd enjoy louder though. I must say, with the replacement downpipe the 3000gt has a really sweet sound to it. Very deep and throaty like a mustang GT. I'd love to get that kind of sound with the M3, but all of the exhausts I've heard so far are a little on the 4 banger sound side of life. Thanks, Mark

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#4. Re: Chicago help - Need car transported to CA - from steve crowl
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:25:00 -0600 From: "steve crowl" <stcrowl@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Chicago help - Need car transported to CA I was looking for someone to transport a car recently and received a recommendation for http://www.aaavehiclemovers.com/ I emailed and got a quote for $800 to move a car from Portland, OR to Austin, TX. I would've taken it except it was open transport and I wanted closed. They are a broker. Steve Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:21:44 EST From: DrDan976@aol.com Subject: Chicago help - Need car transported to CA I was wondering if anyone from Chicago has any good leads on a reliable but reasonable car transporter from IL to CA. The car is a Ford Escape. thanks Dan Wang

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust - from Matt Bader
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:37:00 -0500 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust Yes, even the Corsa could not be mistaken for a bad-a** V-8 sound. I have heard some exhausts on the M3 that I really did not like at all. The Corsa, fortunately, is not one of them. Nobody normally drives my car (i.e. my girlfriend is afraid to), so I need to find somebody to drive it around the neighborhood so I can listen to it from the outside! I bought my mounts from the dealer and paid a premium price for them. I won't let that happen again. Matt -----Original Message----- From: Mark D [mailto:mdlkml@atari-source.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:23 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:19:30 -0500 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust Matt Bader wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:08:11 -0500 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust > > My Eclipse Turbo, with a great sounding after market exhaust, was not kind > to car alarms. I had a 1990 GSX which, for its time was a great car, and > with a huge aftermarket following. > > I drove the Corsa-equipped Mcar a lot this morning. It is a bit loud, but > not obnoxious, and as Dave says, it might calm down a bit. At freeway > speeds there is no droning, and at WOT it sounds great! > > Matt > All this talk about exhaust makes me feel I should perk up and speak about the solid mounts I installed into my 3000GT. To put it simple, don't do it. It's fine under speed and even cruising but at idle it resonates and shakes the whole interior like twin 12 inch subs throttling your brain at full volume. I increased the idle to 1100RPM so I could stand the car :-P All this just to save $100. (the solids were cheaper). Makes me glad I'm not so cheap with my M3. The M3 is IMHO super quiet. The 3000GT has a replacement sport downpipe and with that alone it's pretty loud. I'd enjoy louder though. I must say, with the replacement downpipe the 3000gt has a really sweet sound to it. Very deep and throaty like a mustang GT. I'd love to get that kind of sound with the M3, but all of the exhausts I've heard so far are a little on the 4 banger sound side of life. Thanks, Mark ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#6. Re: Rear Wheel Bearing Replacement - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:52:50 -0800 (PST) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Bearing Replacement Jeff, I consider rear wheel bearings a difficult job. You do have to remove the rear axle of the side you are working on, and you really need the proper tools to complete the job. One of the most difficult parts of the job for me, is that the outer race *always* gets stock on the stub axle (you will be replacing this part presumably, so you just saved yourself some time) and you have to be very, very careful not to mar the surface of the stub axle when removing the outer race. if you mar that surface you will be doing the job again soon. BTDT. Otherwise, it is not a terrible job, just long and laborious. I would figure 3-4 hours the *second* time you do it, double that the first. YMMV. Proper tools for the job are nearly $300 and I wouldn't try this job without them. I won't loan my tools out because they can be damaged and it's a PITA to replace them, but maybe someone else will. Tools needed include a bearing puller set and a slide hammer, as well as normal sockets/wrenches and a set of snap ring pliers for the large snap ring that is easily forgotten until you break your bearing puller trying to torque the bearing out of the control arm (have not done this myself but have seen it done). Good luck, Shane k. >So, I cracked open the Bentley manual this morning, >and it tells me I > have to remove the drive axle. Really? Just to pull >of the drive flanges > and put the new bearings on? Now, being that I did >the heagasket on > the car a few months back, I've got the tools to do >the job, but I just > wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy. Well, at least >not any crazier than > I already am. :) Any advice, BTDT stories, etc? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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#7. Re: Rear Wheel Bearing Replacement - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:09:08 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Bearing Replacement on 12/18/07 2:22 PM, Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> wrote: > One of the drive flanges in the back has a stripped threads on one of the lug > holes, so it needs to be replaced. I figured, "heck, since I've got to do > that, I might as well do the bearings, too..." > > So, I cracked open the Bentley manual this morning, and it tells me I have to > remove the drive axle. Really? Just to pull of the drive flanges and put the > new bearings on? The rear wheel bearing R&R is one of the least fun jobs on our cars. On the other hand you'll save about $500/side, less tool cost. In late 2006 I wrote up (in three parts) my own experiences doing this. You can pull these from the archives, Digests 4998 and 4999. There's also a detailed list of tools needed. In particular you *must* have the special tool set to do it, about $250: <http://www.zdmak.com/wbstore/main.asp?action=PROD&PROD=B90-BMW&CTMP=1>. I also recommend your stocking up on a generous supply of curse words. You're going to use them all, and several times over at that. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD

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#8. Re: Rear Wheel Bearing Replacement - from Jeff Conner
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:43:52 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Bearing Replacement > I also recommend your stocking up on a generous supply of curse words. Curse you, Neil!!! EVERYONE in the doctors waiting room turned and stared, trying to figure out why I suddenly burst out laughing. Thanks for the advice on the tools. -jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> on 12/18/07 2:22 PM, Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> wrote: > One of the drive flanges in the back has a stripped threads on one of the lug > holes, so it needs to be replaced. I figured, "heck, since I've got to do > that, I might as well do the bearings, too..." > > So, I cracked open the Bentley manual this morning, and it tells me I have to > remove the drive axle. Really? Just to pull of the drive flanges and put the > new bearings on? The rear wheel bearing R&R is one of the least fun jobs on our cars. On the other hand you'll save about $500/side, less tool cost. In late 2006 I wrote up (in three parts) my own experiences doing this. You can pull these from the archives, Digests 4998 and 4999. There's also a detailed list of tools needed. In particular you *must* have the special tool set to do it, about $250: <http://www.zdmak.com/wbstore/main.asp?action=PROD&PROD=B90-BMW&CTMP=1>. I also recommend your stocking up on a generous supply of curse words. You're going to use them all, and several times over at that. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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#9. Clutch master replacement options - from Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:57:37 -0500 From: "Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)" <alexander.avedis@baesystems.com> Subject: Clutch master replacement options The plastic ring eyelet on the shaft end of the clutch master cylinder that attaches to the clutch pedal broke. The replacement is also plastic. What have you all been replacing your clutch master cylinders with? Is there any with a beefier design? Does the breakage indicate that something else is going on with the clutch mechanism such as stiff pressure plate springs, etc.? The clutch works fine. Any advice appreciated prior to my doing the stock replacement. Thanks and have a great holiday season!!! Alex 973-305-2439 NJ Chapter 98 M3/4 [104k miles]

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust - from Mike Frank
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:03:30 -0500 From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust Not to get too OT, but I also had a 1990 Eclipse GSX and agree that it was a great car in it's time. Not in the same class as the M3 but still a very fun car. The AWD was great in rain and snow. Power slides in fresh snow made me feel like Tommi Mäkinen. :) I wish I still had that car. It makes me think about getting an EVO, STI, or S4 for a winter car. It's too bad the current gen Eclipse has turned into a chic car IMHO. M3 content - I have a UUC system U which also sets off car alarms and announces my arrival. I honestly appreciate it more when someone else drives the car and I'm in another car or standing outside, which is almost never. Mike Frank 97 M3 - hibernating 04 Navigator - family bus, winter "beater" 03 R6 - dare I say more fun at the track than the M3. 02 QX4 - for sale 99 GS300 - wife 90 Eclipse GSX - sorely missed > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:08:11 -0500 > From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Corsa Exhaust > > My Eclipse Turbo, with a great sounding after market exhaust, was not kind > to car alarms. I had a 1990 GSX which, for its time was a great car, and > with a huge aftermarket following. > > I drove the Corsa-equipped Mcar a lot this morning. It is a bit loud, but > not obnoxious, and as Dave says, it might calm down a bit. At freeway > speeds there is no droning, and at WOT it sounds great! > > Matt

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