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#1. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - from Marco Romani
#2. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - selling mods separately - from Matt Bader
#3. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - selling mods separately - from Marco Romani
#4. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - selling mods separately - from Matt Bader
#5. RE: [E36M3] Re: car washing - from Paul L Fisher
#6. Re: [E36M3] Drive axle removal help needed - stripped torx bolt - from Chris Baker
#7. Re: Drive axle removal help needed - from Neil Maller
#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: Drive axle removal help needed - from Dmitri Zorine
#9. $4900 E36M3!!! - from ProBikeGuy
#10. E36 parts FS - from Mark Dadgar

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#1. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - from Marco Romani
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:13:15 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Put it back to stock and sell the mods. As it is you may get 25% of the original value of the mods if you find someone that really likes the stuff. If you remove the mods you can probably get closer to 50% depending on various things such as the year of the stereo (if it's one or two years old and still in production you'll do well, if it's 5 years old and a down a few model revisions you may do really poorly). Marco -----Original Message----- From: Paul Smith [mailto:Paul.Smith@OntarioSystems.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 5:52 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:41:04 -0500 From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith@OntarioSystems.com> Subject: 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Not that I want to move the vehicle (owned it 5 years and it is paid off :)). I am thinking of putting the sedan on the block. It is pretty modded - $3000 dollar stereo (+), new Koni SA coilovers and camber plates, JTD front and rear stress bars, ITG/Borla, customized door panels for speakers and gauges on dash - where they can be seen. My question is, do I take it back to stock to sell? Sell it as is? This is a money question. I need to get the most out of it and do not care about taking it back to original and selling parts. Thanks in advance! Paul Attention: This message and all attachments are private and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message immediately. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 12/30/2007 11:27 AM

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#2. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :(  - selling mods separately - from Matt Bader
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:27:47 -0500 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - selling mods separately I usually use 50% as a rule of thumb. If the part is in good to new condition, and you can get it for 50% off new price (and it is still currently available), it is a good buy generally. Matt Bader -----Original Message----- From: Marco Romani [mailto:marco@corsa-na.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:22 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:13:15 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Put it back to stock and sell the mods. As it is you may get 25% of the original value of the mods if you find someone that really likes the stuff. If you remove the mods you can probably get closer to 50% depending on various things such as the year of the stereo (if it's one or two years old and still in production you'll do well, if it's 5 years old and a down a few model revisions you may do really poorly). Marco -----Original Message----- From: Paul Smith [mailto:Paul.Smith@OntarioSystems.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 5:52 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:41:04 -0500 From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith@OntarioSystems.com> Subject: 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Not that I want to move the vehicle (owned it 5 years and it is paid off :)). I am thinking of putting the sedan on the block. It is pretty modded - $3000 dollar stereo (+), new Koni SA coilovers and camber plates, JTD front and rear stress bars, ITG/Borla, customized door panels for speakers and gauges on dash - where they can be seen. My question is, do I take it back to stock to sell? Sell it as is? This is a money question. I need to get the most out of it and do not care about taking it back to original and selling parts. Thanks in advance! Paul Attention: This message and all attachments are private and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message immediately.

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#3. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :(  - selling mods separately - from Marco Romani
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:37:54 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - selling mods separately What I meant was 25% if mods stay on the car, 50% if moved. You can probably get 50% on the car if you're willing to wait for the right buyer. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Matt Bader [mailto:mbader@exammaster.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:28 AM To: 'Marco Romani'; 'E36M3' Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - selling mods separately I usually use 50% as a rule of thumb. If the part is in good to new condition, and you can get it for 50% off new price (and it is still currently available), it is a good buy generally. Matt Bader -----Original Message----- From: Marco Romani [mailto:marco@corsa-na.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:22 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:13:15 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Put it back to stock and sell the mods. As it is you may get 25% of the original value of the mods if you find someone that really likes the stuff. If you remove the mods you can probably get closer to 50% depending on various things such as the year of the stereo (if it's one or two years old and still in production you'll do well, if it's 5 years old and a down a few model revisions you may do really poorly). Marco -----Original Message----- From: Paul Smith [mailto:Paul.Smith@OntarioSystems.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 5:52 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:41:04 -0500 From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith@OntarioSystems.com> Subject: 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Not that I want to move the vehicle (owned it 5 years and it is paid off :)). I am thinking of putting the sedan on the block. It is pretty modded - $3000 dollar stereo (+), new Koni SA coilovers and camber plates, JTD front and rear stress bars, ITG/Borla, customized door panels for speakers and gauges on dash - where they can be seen. My question is, do I take it back to stock to sell? Sell it as is? This is a money question. I need to get the most out of it and do not care about taking it back to original and selling parts. Thanks in advance! Paul Attention: This message and all attachments are private and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message immediately. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 12/30/2007 11:27 AM

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#4. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :(  - selling mods separately - from Matt Bader
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:08:32 -0500 From: "Matt Bader" <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - selling mods separately Yes, that is what I understood you to mean, also. 50% when the parts are off the car and in good condition. Doesn't make sense to buy stuff new (including a car!) except under some circumstances. -----Original Message----- From: Marco Romani [mailto:marco@corsa-na.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:42 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - selling mods separately Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:37:54 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - selling mods separately What I meant was 25% if mods stay on the car, 50% if moved. You can probably get 50% on the car if you're willing to wait for the right buyer. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Matt Bader [mailto:mbader@exammaster.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:28 AM To: 'Marco Romani'; 'E36M3' Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( - selling mods separately I usually use 50% as a rule of thumb. If the part is in good to new condition, and you can get it for 50% off new price (and it is still currently available), it is a good buy generally. Matt Bader -----Original Message----- From: Marco Romani [mailto:marco@corsa-na.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:22 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:13:15 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Put it back to stock and sell the mods. As it is you may get 25% of the original value of the mods if you find someone that really likes the stuff. If you remove the mods you can probably get closer to 50% depending on various things such as the year of the stereo (if it's one or two years old and still in production you'll do well, if it's 5 years old and a down a few model revisions you may do really poorly). Marco -----Original Message----- From: Paul Smith [mailto:Paul.Smith@OntarioSystems.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 5:52 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:41:04 -0500 From: "Paul Smith" <Paul.Smith@OntarioSystems.com> Subject: 1998 M3/4/5 sale question :( Not that I want to move the vehicle (owned it 5 years and it is paid off :)). I am thinking of putting the sedan on the block. It is pretty modded - $3000 dollar stereo (+), new Koni SA coilovers and camber plates, JTD front and rear stress bars, ITG/Borla, customized door panels for speakers and gauges on dash - where they can be seen. My question is, do I take it back to stock to sell? Sell it as is? This is a money question. I need to get the most out of it and do not care about taking it back to original and selling parts. Thanks in advance! Paul Attention: This message and all attachments are private and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message immediately. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 12/30/2007 11:27 AM ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Re: car washing - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:25:55 -0600 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: car washing That web site I posted www.dccarcare.com is owned by the President of the SHO Club. Small world... Fellow ex-SHO owner. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: steve crowl [mailto:stcrowl@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:12 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: car washing Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:08:49 -0600 From: "steve crowl" <stcrowl@gmail.com> Subject: Re: car washing I was on a Taurus SHO mailing list like this one in the mid-90s and witnessed an annual argument about whether to use dish washing soap. I think it *is* preferred when trying to remove wax. Obligatory M3 content: that SHO mailing list got me interested in an M3. One of the list members, a Ford engineer, once wrote something to the effect that he'd driven an e36 M3 and that was a car he'd like to own. Steve Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:59:55 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Burke <pureone55@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Paint care NO DAWN!!! That is for dishes, not cars. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: 12/19/2007 7:37 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: 12/19/2007 7:37 PM

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Drive axle removal help needed - stripped torx bolt - from Chris Baker
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:08:42 -0500 From: "Chris Baker" <cjbaker790@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Drive axle removal help needed - stripped torx bolt While we're on the topic, (I'll change the subject to minimize the thread hijack), is there any flaw in my logic that if I have a totally stripped/mutilated torx bolt, I may as well just cut the head off and get the rest of it out when I have the diff out later? It's a shoulder bolt, so as near as I can tell the threads are only in the diff portion. Am I missing something here? Thanks Chris B. On Dec 31, 2007 10:41 AM, Dmitri Zorine <dmitri@dz-inc.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:30:07 -0500 > From: "Dmitri Zorine" <dmitri@dz-inc.com> > Subject: Drive axle removal help needed > > Hi all. > I've had a slight mishap with my 99 M, as a result driver side lower > control arm was bent, which I finally replaced. Buttoned everything up > and went for a test drive. Within 3 miles I lost the power to the rear > wheel. > Got it back up on the stands and the driver side drive axle apparently > had popped out. There is about 1/2-3/4" gap between the inner CV joint > and the flange on the diff. As well as it's definitely loose and not > making connection to the splines in the wheel hub. > > I looked at Bentley's, and on paper it looks so simple. Not so easy from > under the car. The collar nut is some funny gargantual sized torx shaped > nut (does anyone have specs on what size that nut is, to buy the right > socket?), tightened to 220+ ft-lb. The inner CV joint bolts are torx > too, and hard to get to without dropping the exhaust. > > I'm tempted to just take it to a shop and let them do it for me. But if > there are any BTDT suggestions with tricks and tips to make the job easy > or, at least, easier, I might try to do it myself. Like the size of the > torx collar nut, a good source for torx sockets? > > So any advice is highly appreciated. > > Dmitri > >

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#7. Re: Drive axle removal help needed - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:03:46 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Drive axle removal help needed on 12/31/07 10:51 AM, "Dmitri Zorine" <dmitri@dz-inc.com> wrote: > I looked at Bentley's, and on paper it looks so simple. Not so easy from > under the car. The collar nut is some funny gargantual sized torx shaped > nut (does anyone have specs on what size that nut is, to buy the right > socket?), tightened to 220+ ft-lb. You need a 30mm 12-point socket, and of course a torque wrench with the range to cover that. > The inner CV joint bolts are torx too, and hard to get to without dropping the > exhaust. Yes, you need to drop the cat-back exhaust section for access. No big deal. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: Drive axle removal help needed - from Dmitri Zorine
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 11:42:07 -0500 From: "Dmitri Zorine" <dmitri@dz-inc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Drive axle removal help needed Is it really only 32? I help my 32 mm open end wrench from water pump job and the nut looked bigger than 32... Is it just a regular 12 point, or is it a torx pattern? Thank you for the info! > -----Original Message----- > > from under the car. The collar nut is some funny gargantual sized torx > > shaped nut (does anyone have specs on what size that nut is, to buy > > the right socket?), tightened to 220+ ft-lb. > > You need a 30mm 12-point socket, and of course a torque > wrench with the range to cover that. > > > The inner CV joint bolts are torx too, and hard to get to without > > dropping the exhaust. > > Yes, you need to drop the cat-back exhaust section for > access. No big deal.

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#9. $4900 E36M3!!! - from ProBikeGuy
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:09:14 -0600 From: "ProBikeGuy" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: $4900 E36M3!!! So my buddy found a 95 M3 on ebay..Car was in Atlanta. One owner ALL records...175k miles...$4900! Boston green, Tan/black lux package I figured it would be a typical high miler, with wear...So he stops by last night to show me the car..... HOLY CRAP!!! Turns out its beyond nice...the interior is perfect! the dirver seat has wear just on the outside bolster the rest of the interior looks like it just came off the showroom floor!!! has a few rock chips on the nose... I was shocked... So whoever lives in Atlanta missed out on one nice M3! For cheap! Gary

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#10. E36 parts FS - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:54:48 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: E36 parts FS All are Make Offer: Black leather heated front sport seats: http://www.justracing.com/classified/959?referrer=syndicate Black leather rear seats: http://www.justracing.com/classified/960?referrer=syndicate E36 coupe dove grey headliner: http://www.justracing.com/classified/961?referrer=syndicate E36 glovebox - black: http://www.justracing.com/classified/962?referrer=syndicate E36 center console - black: http://www.justracing.com/classified/963?referrer=syndicate E36 armrest parts - black: http://www.justracing.com/classified/964?referrer=syndicate Feel free to forward. - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing homepage at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar

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