E36M3 #5562

Sunday, February 03, 2008 21:29:52

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#1. RE: Engine weight? - from Burgess, Kim L
#2. WTB: Oil lid + gauges - from Shelhart2@aol.com
#3. Changes in Oil Composition - from steve crowl
#4. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from George R Carr Jr
#5. FS: Two (2) sets of Performance Friction 01 pads for E36/E46 M3, etc. - from Raza Uddin
#6. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from Daniel Lowe
#7. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from Mark Dadgar
#8. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from Daniel Lowe
#9. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from Dave Thomas
#10. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from Mark Dadgar

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#1. RE: Engine weight? - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 15:33:00 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Engine weight? A bare cast iron S50 block weighs in right @ 100 lbs -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:05:50 -0500 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Engine weight? Does anyone know the complete engine weight of the M3 S52 or S50 motor? I have 375 lbs for the 330i N54, and 419lbs for the 335i M54 motor, so I was curious as to how much our E36 M3 motors weigh, or even the E46 M3 motor. Thanks, Chris

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#2. WTB: Oil lid + gauges - from Shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:24:40 EST From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: WTB: Oil lid + gauges I'd like to install the oil pressure, oil temp and voltage gauges in the dash (Eastern Motowerks type set up) and also want the oil lid (Rogue has one) with the holes for the sending unit. Anyone happen to have this for sale before I go buy one? Shel 1995 M3 2005 330CI **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

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#3. Changes in Oil Composition - from steve crowl
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:36:00 -0600 From: "steve crowl" <stcrowl@gmail.com> Subject: Changes in Oil Composition At the risk of starting another "great oil debate" I've been reading about how EPA mandated changes in oil composition (service grade SM) can have detrimental effects on Porsches due to reduced levels of zinc and phosphorous. This is an oft quoted link: http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html Is this cause for concern for our cars as well? Thanks, Steve

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#4. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from George R Carr Jr
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:42:34 -0700 From: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit Hello, Congratulations. I keep wishing I'd get the TMS/Conforti cam kit for my 98 M3/4 and 00/MR. My local favorite shop (SCCA racers) speak very highly of the kit. I have the reprogramming and intake kits. That alone makes a difference. If anyone is able to put together a group buy keep me in mind. Thanks, George >Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 20:19:23 -0800 >From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> >Subject: TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit > > >I just installed my 'stage 2' TMS/Conforti kit in my '95...why did I not buy >this sooner? Oh yea, its pretty expensive lol. Results are great. What a >wicked bark out of that engine above 6K. Those new style Bosch injectors sure >are funky lookin' though, was a little surprised to see how skinny they are. > >Any of you with a '95 that are on the fence about purchasing this kit (or >similar) should jump on it. You will be happy. It really changes the >personality of the car. > >Dave > -- =========================== georgercarrjr@earthlink.net

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#5. FS: Two (2) sets of Performance Friction 01 pads for E36/E46 M3, etc. - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:31:57 -0800 From: "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: FS: Two (2) sets of Performance Friction 01 pads for E36/E46 M3, etc. I have for sale one *USED* set and one *BRAND NEW* set of Performance Friction 01 pads. These are, by far, the best pads I have used for track driving on my E36 M3. Even with no added ducting, full interior, and sticky r-comp tires, I could never get these pads to fade. Originally Posted by *Bimmerworld* 01 Compound 01 is one of the most advanced race compounds in the PFC's arsenal, and has become the standard by which all brake pads are judged. It has good initial bite, with very little torque rise with temperature. At the end of the stop, 01 Compound has less torque scatter for improved modulation with excellent release. 01 Compound has good disc conditioning properties with low wear. 01 Compound is one of PFC's most popular race compounds and wins more World and National Championships annually than any other brake pad on the market. This pad design will fit: E36 M3, M Roadster, M Coupe: 1995-2001 E46 330, M3 , M Roadster, M Coupe: 2000-2006 (including Competition Package) E90 325, 330: 2006-Present All E34 (1989-1995) E39 528: 1997-2000 Part number: 0394.01.20.44 The new pads are in-box and never used. Retail price from Bimmerworld is ~$230 (plus shipping). *I will sell for $220 shipped.* The used set are same compound and have been used a total of 8-9 track days (plus driving to and from the track where most of the wear takes place). They have 5mm pads material remaining. Depending on driving style these should last anywhere from 1-3 days. These are great if you want to try out the 01 compound without having to invest in a new set. *I will sell these for $50 shipped.* Drive Safely, Raza

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#6. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from Daniel Lowe
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:51:49 -0500 From: "Daniel Lowe" <blackjackbimmer@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit Well, I can tell you that on the dyno I saw a 2 hp gain and a 1 torque loss on my car. There was a 25 degree ambient temperature difference between the two runs though. First run was in November and mid 50's, second was in May and low 80's. First run had a stage 1 conforti chip with euro MAF, stock air box, UUC exhaust. Stock injectors went wide open at around 5800 rpm. Showed max hp of 225, max torque of 216. Second run had upgraded cams, 24lb injectors, euro MAF, cone filter, conforti chip to match, UUC underdrive pulleys, same UUC exhaust. Showed max hp of 227, max torque of 215. Results really suck based on the cash outlay. Based on HP claims, the car should be putting out around 255 hp at the wheels. Only explanation I've been given is that the Vanos may be working against the upgrades but never any explanation of how to fix it. I've posted the dyno charts on this list before. Yes, the car feels terrific. Yes, the wheels will cut loose at 4k rpm when the cams kick in and the road is a little wet. My mechanic says it's one of the strongest e36's he's worked on. However, it falls way short on actual dyno results. Dan On Feb 2, 2008 11:19 AM, Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 08:12:22 -0800 (PST) > From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit > > I believe stage 2 has the 24# injectors, in addition the the Stage 1's > Intake/HFM/Chip > > I should get the 95 dynoed, to see if the claims are even remotely true. > I'm always skeptical about HP gain claims. > > I will say this, gutted and with the Stage 2 kit, my 95 is WAAAAAY quicker > than my 98 (with Dinan S/W). > > -jeff

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#7. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:10:41 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit On Feb 3, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Daniel Lowe wrote: > Second run had upgraded cams, 24lb injectors, euro MAF, cone filter, > conforti chip to match, UUC underdrive pulleys, same UUC exhaust. > Showed > max hp of 227, max torque of 215. > > Results really suck based on the cash outlay. Based on HP claims, > the car > should be putting out around 255 hp at the wheels. Only explanation > I've > been given is that the Vanos may be working against the upgrades but > never > any explanation of how to fix it. I've posted the dyno charts on > this list > before. Which cams? Schrick? There was an indexing problem with Schrick cams a couple of years back that ended up with many installs being 15 degrees retarded (IIRC). Probably worth reconfirming. - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing homepage at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar

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#8. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from Daniel Lowe
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:28:32 -0500 From: "Daniel Lowe" <blackjackbimmer@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit Yes, they should be Shrick. The kit came from Turner and that's what they sell with the kit. If they are slightly retarded, what's the solution? A little more education? Dan On Feb 3, 2008 4:19 PM, Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> wrote: > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:10:41 -0800 > From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit > > Which cams? Schrick? > > There was an indexing problem with Schrick cams a couple of years back > that ended up with many installs being 15 degrees retarded (IIRC). > > Probably worth reconfirming. > > - Mark

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#9. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from Dave Thomas
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:44:13 -0800 From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit On Sunday 03 February 2008 1:19:42 pm Mark Dadgar wrote: > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:10:41 -0800 > From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit > > On Feb 3, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Daniel Lowe wrote: > > Second run had upgraded cams, 24lb injectors, euro MAF, cone filter, > > conforti chip to match, UUC underdrive pulleys, same UUC exhaust. > > Showed > > max hp of 227, max torque of 215. > > Which cams? Schrick? > > There was an indexing problem with Schrick cams a couple of years back > that ended up with many installs being 15 degrees retarded (IIRC). > > Probably worth reconfirming. > > - Mark I am with Mark...you need to verify that those cams are timed properly. Dave

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#10. Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:27:27 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TMS/Conforti 'stage 2' kit On Feb 3, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Lowe wrote: > Yes, they should be Shrick. The kit came from Turner and that's > what they sell with the kit. > > If they are slightly retarded, what's the solution? A little more > education? LOL. They just need to be re-timed by someone who knows about the issue. The timing mark on the cams was apparently 15 degrees off on the early production run. - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing homepage at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar

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