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#1. Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution - from Jeff Conner
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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:37:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution Kurt, A friend and I recently fabricated a solution for the driver's side footwell using diamond plate and aluminum bar stock. Something similar to this: http://vacmotorsports.com/cgi-bin/view_item.pl?item_id=46 We used a piece of cardboard to create a template, then cut the diamond plate to fit and then used the bar stock and some small aluminum straps to get the floor pan to sit at about the same level as the stock, carpeted floor with a floor mat on top. Getting the level correct was a bit tricky, but it was well worth it. I drove two days in a row at Laguna Seca last month and noticed a significant decrease in ankle & shin fatigue in my right leg after installing, compared to how it had been previously. I'll take some pictures tomorrow if you would like. Good luck. -jeff S52 Sedan S50 trackdog ----- Original Message ---- From: "kresener@aol.com" <kresener@aol.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2008 6:49:32 PM Subject: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:39 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Update on Interior Stripping Thought I'd give an update on my project: I've got the rear seats, front seats, center console, both front kickplates, and all of the carpet out of the car and all in one great big pile on my garage floor.? Carpet was not too difficult to get out, as long as the razor knife was new and sharp.? Hardest part was getting the carpet out from under the center stack, but with some careful cutting and brute strength I was able to rip it out.? The sound deadening material is coming off fairly easily as well, I just have the passenger footwell left to do, which will take maybe an hour.? Then the fun part of using goo-gone or something like that to wipe the residue off the floor so that there's a clean surface to paint.? I'm looking forward to the fumes and resultant buzz.? I found a place on the web that mixes custom spray paint cans to match any car's color, they had Avus Blue in their listing so for $12 a can I should be able to get the inside looking pretty spiffy and consistently painted. One thing I was amazed to see was how thick the carpet and padding was in the footwells, about an inch and a half or maybe two inches think.? This has me wondering if I'll have to adjust how my feet work the pedals since they'll be resting so much lower on the floor. So far I'm planning on leaving the door panels in place so it's not so ratty looking, if someone knows where I can get some lightweight aluminum panels for them so it looks cleaner I'd take them out. Once I have all the sound deadening material out I plan to weigh everything I've taken out and will report back what it all weighed.? I'm guessing 125 pounds or so.? It's been a heck of a lot easier and succesful than my diet! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY 1995 M3 (lightened!) 2003 X5 4.6is (heavy!) 2002 325xit (just right) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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#2. Rahal Letterman Racing M3 - from Dave Thomas
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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:45:21 -0800 From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Rahal Letterman Racing M3 You guys seen this yet? http://tinyurl.com/2drexj That looks like it might be fun. Dave
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#3. Re: interior stripping - from Kirk
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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:45:29 -0800 From: "Kirk" <admranger@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: interior stripping Kurt, As for the door panels, Bimmerworld sells 'em. Now get out here and strip the interior from my car...life keeps getting in the way of that stuff. Cheers, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter
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#4. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution - from Marco Romani
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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:51:50 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution Alumalite also makes a great floor. Not as much bling as diamond plate but cheaper. You can even get it in designer colors. 4x8' is something like $200. I make splitters and floor plates out of it. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Conner [mailto:jeff.conner@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:40 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:37:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution Kurt, A friend and I recently fabricated a solution for the driver's side footwell using diamond plate and aluminum bar stock. Something similar to this: http://vacmotorsports.com/cgi-bin/view_item.pl?item_id=46 We used a piece of cardboard to create a template, then cut the diamond plate to fit and then used the bar stock and some small aluminum straps to get the floor pan to sit at about the same level as the stock, carpeted floor with a floor mat on top. Getting the level correct was a bit tricky, but it was well worth it. I drove two days in a row at Laguna Seca last month and noticed a significant decrease in ankle & shin fatigue in my right leg after installing, compared to how it had been previously. I'll take some pictures tomorrow if you would like. Good luck. -jeff S52 Sedan S50 trackdog ----- Original Message ---- From: "kresener@aol.com" <kresener@aol.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2008 6:49:32 PM Subject: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:39 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Update on Interior Stripping Thought I'd give an update on my project: I've got the rear seats, front seats, center console, both front kickplates, and all of the carpet out of the car and all in one great big pile on my garage floor.? Carpet was not too difficult to get out, as long as the razor knife was new and sharp.? Hardest part was getting the carpet out from under the center stack, but with some careful cutting and brute strength I was able to rip it out.? The sound deadening material is coming off fairly easily as well, I just have the passenger footwell left to do, which will take maybe an hour.? Then the fun part of using goo-gone or something like that to wipe the residue off the floor so that there's a clean surface to paint.? I'm looking forward to the fumes and resultant buzz.? I found a place on the web that mixes custom spray paint cans to match any car's color, they had Avus Blue in their listing so for $12 a can I should be able to get the inside looking pretty spiffy and consistently painted. One thing I was amazed to see was how thick the carpet and padding was in the footwells, about an inch and a half or maybe two inches think.? This has me wondering if I'll have to adjust how my feet work the pedals since they'll be resting so much lower on the floor. So far I'm planning on leaving the door panels in place so it's not so ratty looking, if someone knows where I can get some lightweight aluminum panels for them so it looks cleaner I'd take them out. Once I have all the sound deadening material out I plan to weigh everything I've taken out and will report back what it all weighed.? I'm guessing 125 pounds or so.? It's been a heck of a lot easier and succesful than my diet! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY 1995 M3 (lightened!) 2003 X5 4.6is (heavy!) 2002 325xit (just right) ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1261 - Release Date: 2/5/2008 8:57 PM
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#5. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution - from Jeff Conner
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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:04:16 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution I agree that alumalite works well, as well. You can usually find diamond plate scrap from places. I buy my stuff from Metal Supermarkets <http://www.metalsupermarkets.com/> and they routinely have pieces that are appropriately sized. And VERY cheap. The materials I used to do the driver's floor cost me a whopping $25. :) (Yay, cheapskate!) -jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: Marco Romani <marco@corsa-na.com> Alumalite also makes a great floor. Not as much bling as diamond plate but cheaper. You can even get it in designer colors. 4x8' is something like $200. I make splitters and floor plates out of it. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Conner Kurt, A friend and I recently fabricated a solution for the driver's side footwell using diamond plate and aluminum bar stock. Something similar to this: http://vacmotorsports.com/cgi-bin/view_item.pl?item_id=46 We used a piece of cardboard to create a template, then cut the diamond plate to fit and then used the bar stock and some small aluminum straps to get the floor pan to sit at about the same level as the stock, carpeted floor with a floor mat on top. Getting the level correct was a bit tricky, but it was well worth it. I drove two days in a row at Laguna Seca last month and noticed a significant decrease in ankle & shin fatigue in my right leg after installing, compared to how it had been previously. I'll take some pictures tomorrow if you would like. Good luck. -jeff S52 Sedan S50 trackdog ----- Original Message ---- From: "kresener@aol.com" <kresener@aol.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2008 6:49:32 PM Subject: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:39 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Update on Interior Stripping Thought I'd give an update on my project: I've got the rear seats, front seats, center console, both front kickplates, and all of the carpet out of the car and all in one great big pile on my garage floor.? Carpet was not too difficult to get out, as long as the razor knife was new and sharp.? Hardest part was getting the carpet out from under the center stack, but with some careful cutting and brute strength I was able to rip it out.? The sound deadening material is coming off fairly easily as well, I just have the passenger footwell left to do, which will take maybe an hour.? Then the fun part of using goo-gone or something like that to wipe the residue off the floor so that there's a clean surface to paint.? I'm looking forward to the fumes and resultant buzz.? I found a place on the web that mixes custom spray paint cans to match any car's color, they had Avus Blue in their listing so for $12 a can I should be able to get the inside looking pretty spiffy and consistently painted. One thing I was amazed to see was how thick the carpet and padding was in the footwells, about an inch and a half or maybe two inches think.? This has me wondering if I'll have to adjust how my feet work the pedals since they'll be resting so much lower on the floor. So far I'm planning on leaving the door panels in place so it's not so ratty looking, if someone knows where I can get some lightweight aluminum panels for them so it looks cleaner I'd take them out. Once I have all the sound deadening material out I plan to weigh everything I've taken out and will report back what it all weighed.? I'm guessing 125 pounds or so.? It's been a heck of a lot easier and succesful than my diet! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY 1995 M3 (lightened!) 2003 X5 4.6is (heavy!) 2002 325xit (just right) ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1261 - Release Date: 2/5/2008 8:57 PM ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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#6. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution - from Marco Romani
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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:36:11 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution cool link -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Conner [mailto:jeff.conner@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:04 PM To: Marco Romani; E36M3 Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - Floor panel solution I agree that alumalite works well, as well. You can usually find diamond plate scrap from places. I buy my stuff from Metal Supermarkets <http://www.metalsupermarkets.com/> and they routinely have pieces that are appropriately sized. And VERY cheap. The materials I used to do the driver's floor cost me a whopping $25. :) (Yay, cheapskate!) -jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: Marco Romani <marco@corsa-na.com> Alumalite also makes a great floor. Not as much bling as diamond plate but cheaper. You can even get it in designer colors. 4x8' is something like $200. I make splitters and floor plates out of it. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Conner Kurt, A friend and I recently fabricated a solution for the driver's side footwell using diamond plate and aluminum bar stock. Something similar to this: http://vacmotorsports.com/cgi-bin/view_item.pl?item_id=46 We used a piece of cardboard to create a template, then cut the diamond plate to fit and then used the bar stock and some small aluminum straps to get the floor pan to sit at about the same level as the stock, carpeted floor with a floor mat on top. Getting the level correct was a bit tricky, but it was well worth it. I drove two days in a row at Laguna Seca last month and noticed a significant decrease in ankle & shin fatigue in my right leg after installing, compared to how it had been previously. I'll take some pictures tomorrow if you would like. Good luck. -jeff S52 Sedan S50 trackdog ----- Original Message ---- From: "kresener@aol.com" <kresener@aol.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2008 6:49:32 PM Subject: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:39 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Update on Interior Stripping Thought I'd give an update on my project: I've got the rear seats, front seats, center console, both front kickplates, and all of the carpet out of the car and all in one great big pile on my garage floor.? Carpet was not too difficult to get out, as long as the razor knife was new and sharp.? Hardest part was getting the carpet out from under the center stack, but with some careful cutting and brute strength I was able to rip it out.? The sound deadening material is coming off fairly easily as well, I just have the passenger footwell left to do, which will take maybe an hour.? Then the fun part of using goo-gone or something like that to wipe the residue off the floor so that there's a clean surface to paint.? I'm looking forward to the fumes and resultant buzz.? I found a place on the web that mixes custom spray paint cans to match any car's color, they had Avus Blue in their listing so for $12 a can I should be able to get the inside looking pretty spiffy and consistently painted. One thing I was amazed to see was how thick the carpet and padding was in the footwells, about an inch and a half or maybe two inches think.? This has me wondering if I'll have to adjust how my feet work the pedals since they'll be resting so much lower on the floor. So far I'm planning on leaving the door panels in place so it's not so ratty looking, if someone knows where I can get some lightweight aluminum panels for them so it looks cleaner I'd take them out. Once I have all the sound deadening material out I plan to weigh everything I've taken out and will report back what it all weighed.? I'm guessing 125 pounds or so.? It's been a heck of a lot easier and succesful than my diet! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY 1995 M3 (lightened!) 2003 X5 4.6is (heavy!) 2002 325xit (just right) ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1261 - Release Date: 2/5/2008 8:57 PM _____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8 HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> it now. No virus found in this incoming message. 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#7. Harness attachment points - from Tim Williams
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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:35:38 -0500 From: "Tim Williams" <willtj@bellsouth.net> Subject: Harness attachment points I've a 95 M3 with Rollbar, stock seats. Looking for a 6 point harness solution for use with stock seats, for now. Currently I have the schroth 4 pt, bolted in. Some advise that the inboard lap attachment point requires at least a drilled hole and backing plate, with welding recommended by some (backing plate to trans tunnel) I noticed, however, that Schroth makes an attachment strap that is bendable and intended to be used with the clip. This is similar to the mounting of the bolt-in 4 point, I think. I'll have to review the clearance, but it appears that I could use the stock inboard mounting point for the strap, allowing the harness to clip in. Outboard mounting point is also stock. Shoulder wrap on the bar. That leaves the sub straps. I've been in instructor cars where these were attached at the lap positions, then sat on. Could they be mounted, also with the Schroth attachment strap, to the forward seat mount positions? The Schroth mounting strap I'm describing is pn 01324, a "Rallye End Bolt On Kit", can be found with a google "schroth 01324". The description specifically mentions use as a clip on anchor in tight locations. Comments appreciated. I realize racing seat would be preferable. Looking for those too.
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Harness attachment points - from Jack - Elephant Motorsports
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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:54:15 -0500 From: "Jack - Elephant Motorsports" <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Harness attachment points Tim, You absolutely cannot use a 5 or 6 pt belt with a stock seat, that is extremely unsafe. Stick with either your 4 pt set up or get a race seat. If you do go to a race seat, yes, the inboard will need a backing plate if you go through the trans tunnel. The sub straps will also require backing plates. Generally, yes, the bendable brackets you speak of can be used that way but even if you go with a competition type harness, do not use sub straps with a stock seat, they are not designed for their use. Cheers. Jack Money On Feb 7, 2008 12:39 AM, Tim Williams <willtj@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:35:38 -0500 > From: "Tim Williams" <willtj@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Harness attachment points > > I've a 95 M3 with Rollbar, stock seats. > > > > Looking for a 6 point harness solution for use with stock seats, for now. > > > > Currently I have the schroth 4 pt, bolted in. > > > > Some advise that the inboard lap attachment point requires at least a > drilled hole and backing plate, with welding recommended by some (backing > plate to trans tunnel) > > > > I noticed, however, that Schroth makes an attachment strap that is > bendable > and intended to be used with the clip. This is similar to the mounting of > the bolt-in 4 point, I think. > > > > I'll have to review the clearance, but it appears that I could use the > stock > inboard mounting point for the strap, allowing the harness to clip in. > > > > Outboard mounting point is also stock. > > > > Shoulder wrap on the bar. > > > > That leaves the sub straps. I've been in instructor cars where these were > attached at the lap positions, then sat on. > > > > Could they be mounted, also with the Schroth attachment strap, to the > forward seat mount positions? > > > > The Schroth mounting strap I'm describing is pn 01324, a "Rallye End Bolt > On > Kit", can be found with a google "schroth 01324". The description > specifically mentions use as a clip on anchor in tight locations. > > > > Comments appreciated. > > > > I realize racing seat would be preferable. Looking for those too.
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:55:53 -0600 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Where did you find paint for $12 a spray can? -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:50 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:39 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Update on Interior Stripping Thought I'd give an update on my project: I've got the rear seats, front seats, center console, both front kickplates, and all of the carpet out of the car and all in one great big pile on my garage floor.? Carpet was not too difficult to get out, as long as the razor knife was new and sharp.? Hardest part was getting the carpet out from under the center stack, but with some careful cutting and brute strength I was able to rip it out.? The sound deadening material is coming off fairly easily as well, I just have the passenger footwell left to do, which will take maybe an hour.? Then the fun part of using goo-gone or something like that to wipe the residue off the floor so that there's a clean surface to paint.? I'm looking forward to the fumes and resultant buzz.? I found a place on the web that mixes custom spray paint cans to match any car's color, they had Avus Blue in their listing so for $12 a can I should be able to get the inside looking pretty spiffy and consistently painted. One thing I was amazed to see was how thick the carpet and padding was in the footwells, about an inch and a half or maybe two inches think.? This has me wondering if I'll have to adjust how my feet work the pedals since they'll be resting so much lower on the floor. So far I'm planning on leaving the door panels in place so it's not so ratty looking, if someone knows where I can get some lightweight aluminum panels for them so it looks cleaner I'd take them out. Once I have all the sound deadening material out I plan to weigh everything I've taken out and will report back what it all weighed.? I'm guessing 125 pounds or so.? It's been a heck of a lot easier and succesful than my diet! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY 1995 M3 (lightened!) 2003 X5 4.6is (heavy!) 2002 325xit (just right) ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - from Daniel Lowe
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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:10:52 -0500 From: "Daniel Lowe" <blackjackbimmer@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping I got it for $10 a can locally at Car Quest (I think). Bought 6 cans and got a break from the $12 they usually charge. Dan On Feb 7, 2008 9:59 AM, Goss, Patrick - PA <Patrick.Goss@gmacm.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:55:53 -0600 > From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping > > Where did you find paint for $12 a spray can? >