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#1. Re: [E36M3] GC Swaybar - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:07:03 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] GC Swaybar In a message dated 2/7/2008 6:50:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, debuhr@comcast.net writes: I have Eibach bars but had a lot of clunking and realized that an end-link wasn't tightened down enough. Nice and quiet now... So true. I have Eibach bars too. Make sure to take the load off of them and then see if they are loose by jacking both tires off the ground. Loaded, you just can't tell. Ask me how I know ;-)) Once tightened down they will be quiet as a mouse. My bushings don't squeak either. I spray a little PB Blaster in there and they stay quiet too. Maybe a little sound in the winter if the temp gets below 10F or so. cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Another round of Tire talk. - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:12:59 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Another round of Tire talk. In a message dated 2/7/2008 4:00:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, marcva@gmail.com writes: They'll be used for street use, though I get lazy on occasion and use them on the track for DE days. Would the Kumho SPT's work? I've heard good things about them and the price is right! Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)
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#3. RE: [E36M3] need tire opinions: Bridgestone RE-750 vs. Kumho Ecsta MX - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:31:21 -0500 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] need tire opinions: Bridgestone RE-750 vs. Kumho Ecsta MX Ah, bugger, what I have on the Subaru is the Kumho SPT, not the MX, my bad. The MX is more of the Falken Azenis-type tire. I imagine you want something more like the SPT, anyway. Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU -----Original Message----- From: Paul Andrews [mailto:emosound@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:40 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] need tire opinions: Bridgestone RE-750 vs. Kumho Ecsta MX Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:39:14 -0500 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] need tire opinions: Bridgestone RE-750 vs. Kumho Ecsta MX I haven't had the 750s, but the MX is a good tire. I have a set on my Legacy GT, they're relatively quiet, grippy in dry and wet conditions, good turn-in, firm but not harsh ride. I don't see any reason not to get them. I might get a set for my daily-driving set of wheels for my M3. Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU Subject: [E36M3] need tire opinions: Bridgestone RE-750 vs. Kumho Ecsta MX Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:18:49 -0800 From: "Steve Sharp" <steve.sharp@xilinx.com> Subject: need tire opinions: Bridgestone RE-750 vs. Kumho Ecsta MX I need to put new shoes on my E36 M3 coupe to sell it (rears are down to the wear bars!) I have been using RE-750 Bridgestones and like them as a general street tire here in Northern California with the wet winters. I don't want to spend a ton on new tires just to sell it, so RE-050A Pole Positions or Michelin PS2's are out of my budget. I could get a set of RE-750s for about $600 or so or a set of Kumho Ecsta MXs for about $550. What do y'all think is a good choice? Thanks, Steve
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - from kresener@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:50:59 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping www.automotivetouchup.com My cans are on the way and should be here any day, I'll report on how good a match they end up being. Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> To: kresener@aol.com; E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 9:55 am Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Where did you find paint for $12 a spray can? -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:50 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:39 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Update on Interior Stripping Thought I'd give an update on my project: I've got the rear seats, front seats, center console, both front kickplates, and all of the carpet out of the car and all in one great big pile on my garage floor.? Carpet was not too difficult to get out, as long as the razor knife was new and sharp.? Hardest part was getting the carpet out from under the center stack, but with some careful cutting and brute strength I was able to rip it out.? The sound deadening material is coming off fairly easily as well, I just have the passenger footwell left to do, which will take maybe an hour.? Then the fun part of using goo-gone or something like that to wipe the residue off the floor so that there's a clean surface to paint.? I'm looking forward to the fumes and resultant buzz.? I found a place on the web that mixes custom spray paint cans to match any car's color, they had Avus Blue in their listing so for $12 a can I should be able to get the inside looking pretty spiffy and consistently painted. One thing I was amazed to see was how thick the carpet and padding was in the footwells, about an inch and a half or maybe two inches think.? This has me wondering if I'll have to adjust how my feet work the pedals since they'll be resting so much lower on the floor. So far I'm planning on leaving the door panels in place so it's not so ratty looking, if someone knows where I can get some lightweight aluminum panels for them so it looks cleaner I'd take them out. Once I have all the sound deadening material out I plan to weigh everything I've taken out and will report back what it all weighed.? I'm guessing 125 pounds or so.? It's been a heck of a lot easier and succesful than my diet! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY 1995 M3 (lightened!) 2003 X5 4.6is (heavy!) 2002 325xit (just right) ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
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#5. 3.5 hfm / cai / injectors chip vs Stock airbox / chip - from Tim Williams
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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:14:43 -0500 From: "Tim Williams" <willtj@bellsouth.net> Subject: 3.5 hfm / cai / injectors chip vs Stock airbox / chip On a 95, anyone experience performance delta between the eurohfm/24# injector setup and stock airbox w/ conforti chip? Tim 95M3
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:30:22 -0600 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping My local NAPA auto parts store will mix any color and put it in a spray can as well. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:00 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:50:59 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping www.automotivetouchup.com My cans are on the way and should be here any day, I'll report on how good a match they end up being. Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> To: kresener@aol.com; E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 9:55 am Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Where did you find paint for $12 a spray can? -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:50 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:39 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Update on Interior Stripping Thought I'd give an update on my project: I've got the rear seats, front seats, center console, both front kickplates, and all of the carpet out of the car and all in one great big pile on my garage floor.? Carpet was not too difficult to get out, as long as the razor knife was new and sharp.? Hardest part was getting the carpet out from under the center stack, but with some careful cutting and brute strength I was able to rip it out.? The sound deadening material is coming off fairly easily as well, I just have the passenger footwell left to do, which will take maybe an hour.? Then the fun part of using goo-gone or something like that to wipe the residue off the floor so that there's a clean surface to paint.? I'm looking forward to the fumes and resultant buzz.? I found a place on the web that mixes custom spray paint cans to match any car's color, they had Avus Blue in their listing so for $12 a can I should be able to get the inside looking pretty spiffy and consistently painted. One thing I was amazed to see was how thick the carpet and padding was in the footwells, about an inch and a half or maybe two inches think.? This has me wondering if I'll have to adjust how my feet work the pedals since they'll be resting so much lower on the floor. So far I'm planning on leaving the door panels in place so it's not so ratty looking, if someone knows where I can get some lightweight aluminum panels for them so it looks cleaner I'd take them out. Once I have all the sound deadening material out I plan to weigh everything I've taken out and will report back what it all weighed.? I'm guessing 125 pounds or so.? It's been a heck of a lot easier and succesful than my diet! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY 1995 M3 (lightened!) 2003 X5 4.6is (heavy!) 2002 325xit (just right) ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1263 - Release Date: 2/6/2008 8:14 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: 2/7/2008 11:17 AM
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:08:48 -0600 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Yeah I was aware of that site, did you get a bmw discount or something, the 12oz spray is $19.95? -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:00 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:50:59 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping www.automotivetouchup.com My cans are on the way and should be here any day, I'll report on how good a match they end up being. Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> To: kresener@aol.com; E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 9:55 am Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Where did you find paint for $12 a spray can? -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:50 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:39 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Update on Interior Stripping Thought I'd give an update on my project: I've got the rear seats, front seats, center console, both front kickplates, and all of the carpet out of the car and all in one great big pile on my garage floor.? Carpet was not too difficult to get out, as long as the razor knife was new and sharp.? Hardest part was getting the carpet out from under the center stack, but with some careful cutting and brute strength I was able to rip it out.? The sound deadening material is coming off fairly easily as well, I just have the passenger footwell left to do, which will take maybe an hour.? Then the fun part of using goo-gone or something like that to wipe the residue off the floor so that there's a clean surface to paint.? I'm looking forward to the fumes and resultant buzz.? I found a place on the web that mixes custom spray paint cans to match any car's color, they had Avus Blue in their listing so for $12 a can I should be able to get the inside looking pretty spiffy and consistently painted. One thing I was amazed to see was how thick the carpet and padding was in the footwells, about an inch and a half or maybe two inches think.? This has me wondering if I'll have to adjust how my feet work the pedals since they'll be resting so much lower on the floor. So far I'm planning on leaving the door panels in place so it's not so ratty looking, if someone knows where I can get some lightweight aluminum panels for them so it looks cleaner I'd take them out. Once I have all the sound deadening material out I plan to weigh everything I've taken out and will report back what it all weighed.? I'm guessing 125 pounds or so.? It's been a heck of a lot easier and succesful than my diet! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY 1995 M3 (lightened!) 2003 X5 4.6is (heavy!) 2002 325xit (just right) ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. Re: need tire opinions: Bridgestone RE-750 vs. Kumho Ex - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:15:59 -0800 (PST) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: need tire opinions: Bridgestone RE-750 vs. Kumho Ex While we're throwing around tire recommendations I'll add that I'm running Avon Tech M500's on my M3, and my brother is running them on his M5 at my recommendation and is liking them as well. Good grip, very quiet and a good bargain. Even made in the USA! Tire Rack has 'em. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping - from kresener@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:32:36 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Hmmm, just checked my e-receipt and you're right, $19 a can.? Shows how close attention I paid to it.? I guess I was just happy to find a place that'd match my color and was happy to pay whatever! Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> To: kresener@aol.com; E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 8:08 am Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Yeah I was aware of that site, did you get a bmw discount or something, the 12oz spray is $19.95? -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:00 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:50:59 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping www.automotivetouchup.com My cans are on the way and should be here any day, I'll report on how good a match they end up being. Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> To: kresener@aol.com; E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 9:55 am Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Where did you find paint for $12 a spray can? -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:50 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:39 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Update on Interior Stripping Thought I'd give an update on my project: I've got the rear seats, front seats, center console, both front kickplates, and all of the carpet out of the car and all in one great big pile on my garage floor.? Carpet was not too difficult to get out, as long as the razor knife was new and sharp.? Hardest part was getting the carpet out from under the center stack, but with some careful cutting and brute strength I was able to rip it out.? The sound deadening material is coming off fairly easily as well, I just have the passenger footwell left to do, which will take maybe an hour.? Then the fun part of using goo-gone or something like that to wipe the residue off the floor so that there's a clean surface to paint.? I'm looking forward to the fumes and resultant buzz.? I found a place on the web that mixes custom spray paint cans to match any car's color, they had Avus Blue in their listing so for $12 a can I should be able to get the inside looking pretty spiffy and consistently painted. One thing I was amazed to see was how thick the carpet and padding was in the footwells, about an inch and a half or maybe two inches think.? This has me wondering if I'll have to adjust how my feet work the pedals since they'll be resting so much lower on the floor. So far I'm planning on leaving the door panels in place so it's not so ratty looking, if someone knows where I can get some lightweight aluminum panels for them so it looks cleaner I'd take them out. Once I have all the sound deadening material out I plan to weigh everything I've taken out and will report back what it all weighed.? I'm guessing 125 pounds or so.? It's been a heck of a lot easier and succesful than my diet! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY 1995 M3 (lightened!) 2003 X5 4.6is (heavy!) 2002 325xit (just right) ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
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#10. Custom Paint Cans - from MJ
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Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:46:39 -0500 From: "MJ" <bmur@usa.net> Subject: Custom Paint Cans FWIW, I've had good experiences with towerpaint.com at this price point. They've been around for years. -MJ ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:40:05 AM EST From: kresener@aol.com To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:32:36 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Hmmm, just checked my e-receipt and you're right, $19 a can.? Shows how close attention I paid to it.? I guess I was just happy to find a place that'd match my color and was happy to pay whatever! Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> To: kresener@aol.com; E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 8:08 am Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Yeah I was aware of that site, did you get a bmw discount or something, the 12oz spray is $19.95? -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:00 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:50:59 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping www.automotivetouchup.com My cans are on the way and should be here any day, I'll report on how good a match they end up being. Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> To: kresener@aol.com; E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 9:55 am Subject: RE: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Where did you find paint for $12 a spray can? -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:50 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Update on Interior Stripping Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:39 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Update on Interior Stripping Thought I'd give an update on my project: I've got the rear seats, front seats, center console, both front kickplates, and all of the carpet out of the car and all in one great big pile on my garage floor.? Carpet was not too difficult to get out, as long as the razor knife was new and sharp.? Hardest part was getting the carpet out from under the center stack, but with some careful cutting and brute strength I was able to rip it out.? The sound deadening material is coming off fairly easily as well, I just have the passenger footwell left to do, which will take maybe an hour.? Then the fun part of using goo-gone or something like that to wipe the residue off the floor so that there's a clean surface to paint.? I'm looking forward to the fumes and resultant buzz.? I found a place on the web that mixes custom spray paint cans to match any car's color, they had Avus Blue in their listing so for $12 a can I should be able to get the inside looking pretty spiffy and consistently painted. One thing I was amazed to see was how thick the carpet and padding was in the footwells, about an inch and a half or maybe two inches think.? This has me wondering if I'll have to adjust how my feet work the pedals since they'll be resting so much lower on the floor. So far I'm planning on leaving the door panels in place so it's not so ratty looking, if someone knows where I can get some lightweight aluminum panels for them so it looks cleaner I'd take them out. Once I have all the sound deadening material out I plan to weigh everything I've taken out and will report back what it all weighed.? I'm guessing 125 pounds or so.? It's been a heck of a lot easier and succesful than my diet! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY 1995 M3 (lightened!) 2003 X5 4.6is (heavy!) 2002 325xit (just right) ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************