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#1. Re: motor mounts - from Colin S Whelan
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:36:27 -0500 From: Colin S Whelan <Colin_S_Whelan@raytheon.com> Subject: Re: motor mounts Shel, Here's a write up on motor mounts that I did: http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/bimmer/Bimmers/2007_05.pdf Page 6. It's pretty easy. If you have traction control, make sure you disconnect the throttle cable to the traction control before lifting the motor or you might break the connector. A very long extension on the drivers side is also key. Thanks, Col
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#2. RE: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:52:52 -0500 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question The BSW speakers are the correct ohm rating, apparently. And the online fitment guide at Crutchfield is zero help with the 3-way front setup in the BMWs. But, as mentioned, just about any 5 1/4" component set will fit. And the word on the bimmerforums audio forum is that 6 1/2" components fit with a little trimming. That's that route I'm taking. Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:15:52 -0800 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question I just want to say that physical size hasn't got much to do with how welll aftermarket speakers will work with the factory amp/x-overs. The OEM speakers are not standard impedence and they are designed to work with the x-over points in the factory amp. Aftermarket speakers do not take that into consideration unless they're designed as a replacement set for the OEM system. Not sure if the BSW speakers are but it's something to consider. Jay > > Hi, > > One could try Cruthcfield. > They will tell you what will fit. > They actually have an online fitment guide. > > Kent
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#3. Re: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question - from Marty
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:31:18 -0500 From: Marty <mfraiser@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question FWIW, I initially went to Crutchfield's for front replacement speakers. They seemed to have no idea there are 3 different systems and were completely clueless on the HK amp crossovers, etc even after I attempted to explain it. I talked to three people on the phone and none of them had a clue. They suggested I stop by their store and installation shop (local to me) to have the 'experts' take a look. I dropped by the store and they sold me a nice mid-level component system they said would work. I still didn't see how it was going to work but they are the experts so i thought obviously they know something i didn't. Installation was something like $80 extra so I thought shoot that's worth it. Well, they completely botched the job, breaking everything possible and the sound was terrible. They chose one of the speaker outputs and put the crossover there so they got a clipped signal as their source - sort of what I thought would happen. I removed the crossovers thinking that would help but it didn't. I'm guessing the impedance mismatch was too great? To make a long story short, I repaired what they had done and installed speakers from BSW since all I wanted was to replace the speakers with some that worked, nothing fancy. Crutchfield's has a lifetime warranty on installation so I told them about all the damage and tried to return the speakers that wouldn't work but the store manager basically said go f%&k yourself. Needless to say I was extremely disappointed with the entire experience :) YMMV, etc but be informed about what you're getting. marty On Feb 18, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Paul Andrews wrote: > The BSW speakers are the correct ohm rating, apparently. > And the online fitment guide at Crutchfield is zero help with the 3- > way > front setup in the BMWs. > But, as mentioned, just about any 5 1/4" component set will fit. > And the > word on the bimmerforums audio forum is that 6 1/2" components fit > with a > little trimming. That's that route I'm taking.
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#4. Re: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question - from shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:19:30 -0500 From: shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question I went with a nice 50w x 4 channel Pioneer head unit and Infinity Kappa speakers (5 1/4 in front kick panel) and 4" standard in rear.? You can't put anything but 4" unless you want to cut the metal and throw out the plastic speaker box.? I simply used the factory amp so the head unit output really doesn't matter.? The whole process isn't rocket science and it costs me just under $600 with me doing the work.??It could use a little extra bass so Ii can simply put in another small amp and a simple sub woofer for improved response.? I'm?not much into a lot of bass anyway.? The sound imporvement over stock with the new head unit and speakers was significant enought for me even without the amp.?? The radio "cages" slide right into the existing hole and they sell aftermarket adapters so the old harness plugs right in.?? Shel? -----Original Message----- From: Marty <mfraiser@embarqmail.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:31:18 -0500? From: Marty <mfraiser@embarqmail.com>? Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question? ? FWIW, I initially went to Crutchfield's for front replacement speakers. They seemed to have no idea there are 3 different systems and were completely clueless on the HK amp crossovers, etc even after I attempted to explain it. I talked to three people on the phone and none of them had a clue. They suggested I stop by their store and installation shop (local to me) to have the 'experts' take a look.? ? I dropped by the store and they sold me a nice mid-level component system they said would work. I still didn't see how it was going to work but they are the experts so i thought obviously they know something i didn't.? Installation was something like $80 extra so I thought shoot that's worth it. Well, they completely botched the job, breaking everything possible and the sound was terrible. They chose one of the speaker outputs and put the crossover there so they got a clipped signal as their source - sort of what I thought would happen. I removed the crossovers thinking that would help but it didn't. I'm guessing the impedance mismatch was too great?? ? To make a long story short, I repaired what they had done and installed speakers from BSW since all I wanted was to replace the speakers with some that worked, nothing fancy.? ? Crutchfield's has a lifetime warranty on installation so I told them about all the damage and tried to return the speakers that wouldn't work but the store manager basically said go f%&k yourself. Needless to say I was extremely disappointed with the entire experience :)? ? YMMV, etc but be informed about what you're getting.? ? marty? ? On Feb 18, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Paul Andrews wrote:? ? > The BSW speakers are the correct ohm rating, apparently.? > And the online fitment guide at Crutchfield is zero help with the 3-> way? > front setup in the BMWs.? > But, as mentioned, just about any 5 1/4" component set will fit. > And the? > word on the bimmerforums audio forum is that 6 1/2" components fit > with a? > little trimming. That's that route I'm taking.? ? ? *************************************************? Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors:? ? Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com? Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com? Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com? Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com? Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com? Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com? ? DIGEST INFORMATION:? http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm? *************************************************? ? ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
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#5. Re: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question - from Dave Thomas
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:50 -0800 From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Speaker/Radio Question On Monday 18 February 2008 12:19:48 pm shelhart2@aol.com wrote: > I went with a nice 50w x 4 channel Pioneer head unit and Infinity Kappa > speakers (5 1/4 in front kick panel) and 4" standard in rear.? You can't > put anything but 4" unless you want to cut the metal and throw out the > plastic speaker box.? 6x9's are a good option for the rear deck...you can find adapters on eBay for about $25. That is what I did in the rear on our M3...they pop right in. Dave
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#6. Koni vs. Bilstein - from trmptdc@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:59:44 -0500 From: trmptdc@aol.com Subject: Koni vs. Bilstein ?I am?going to replace the shocks on my 98 with 65K miles and am deciding between Bilstein and Koni.? I plan to take my car to track events (I just sold my previous track car), so I am also going to install rear shock mount reinforcements and front camber plates.? I am planning to keep the original M3 springs.?? I know that both shock setups are good, but I also want the car to be as comfortable as possible for street use.?? Any thoughts on the differences between these two shocks???? Also, am I missing something by not replacing the springs as well??? I would think that the M3 springs are pretty good and other than lowering the car, there would not be a great advantage to switching them. Also, what other reinforcement type mods in addition to the shock mounts are good to do to prevent problems?? Thanks Steve 98 White M3/4 ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
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#7. FS: Samco intake boot - from Dave Thomas
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:39:18 -0700 (MST) From: "Dave Thomas" <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: FS: Samco intake boot Out cleaning the garage.... Anyone need a black Samco Sport silicon intake boot? I had it on my '95 for about 8K miles but I cant use it anymore. Great condition...probably only has another 400K of life ;-) $50 obo. Dave
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#8. Re: [E36M3] FS: Samco intake boot - from Dave Thomas
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:56:52 -0700 (MST) From: "Dave Thomas" <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] FS: Samco intake boot > Anyone need a black Samco Sport silicon intake boot? I had it on my '95 > for about 8K miles but I cant use it anymore. Great condition...probably > only has another 400K of life ;-) $50 obo. > > Dave BTW: This is for the stock 3" HFM, not the Euro 3.5" HFM. Dave
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#9. Re: Motor mount replacement & new seats - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:21:56 -0800 (PST) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Motor mount replacement & new seats Shel, Motor mount replacement is pretty easy with the stock manifolds on the car. I just replaced them on the race car with headers and it was a bit of a bitch. But here's what you do: 1. unbolt the top and bottom bolts (bottom is tricky because the control arm is in the way a bit) 2. Support the engine with a hoist and lift up just enough to caox the mounts out. 3. Install new mounts, including bottom bolt. 4. Lower motor onto mounts. 5. Install top bolts. Pretty easy job... Shane K. > 9. Motor mount replacement & new seats > by: <Shelhart2@aol.com> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Koni vs. Bilstein - from Tim Williams
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:28:33 -0500 From: "Tim Williams" <willtj@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Koni vs. Bilstein I'd suggest, based on my current experience, the front subframe reinforcement from Turner. You can read in the forums that the M3 was reinforced, and perhaps so compared to the other e36 chassis, but my subframe has failed at the motor mount. My car has not been reinforced at the sway bar mounts or the rear trailing arms either, but now I'm considering that too. I do have the shock tower reinforcements, front, and the z3 plates rear. My suspension is stock except bilstein shocks replaced the original. I find it a little stiffer than stock, but on the track I wish for a little more stiffness. If I had it to do over again, I'd be seriously considering a street/de coilover setup from ground control or one of the list sponsors.