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#1. Re: [E36M3] New Corbeau Seats in - from Dave Thomas
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:08:14 -0800 From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Corbeau Seats in On Wednesday 20 February 2008 6:49:48 am Matt Bader wrote: > Under this scenario, will the airbags still deploy in an accident? > > Matt Bader Its my understanding that if in doubt, the SRS system will fire both bags, so a missing sensor should not stop it from firing...but I am not 100% sure, its just something I have been told by others on the 'net... Dave
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#2. Re: [E36M3] aftermarket seats and belts - from Marc Plante
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:30:24 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] aftermarket seats and belts I put SRDs in my car, and in the process, triggered one of the pretensioners in the car iny my 325 and had to replace it. The second time I did it in my M3/4, I got out the stock wire without much incident and used the stock receiver. You can do without it, though it is an integral part of the car's safety system. Without it, the seatbelts won't do their job right. Is your safety worth $120? You have to do a little fiddling to get the wire out from the guts of the stock seat. Work with a pair of snips to cut the myriad of zip ties and some sort of a rod to compress the foam so you can pull the wire out. If you've already cut the wire, I'd recommend replacing the unit. Similarly, you're going to have to: a) Work the passenger seat sensor out for the passenger airbag b) Buy a replacement c) work on a resistor based way to "trick" the SRS sensor d) turn off the light. For C or D, are you OK with your passengers not having an airbag? For a track car with other safety measures. Otherwise, I feel a little better with my system intact. I worked the passenger sensor out of the seat and put it under the seat cushion of my passenger SRD. It's a bit fiddly to get it out of the stock seat, but not that bad. I think it took me about 30-45 mins and most of that was trying to figure out how to do it rather than just executing. Marc Plante E36 M3/4/5 82k Recaro SRDs, Shift Kit, Ellipsoids
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#3. Seatbelt receptacle Simulator ....was WTB: front seat belt receptacles - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:34:17 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: Seatbelt receptacle Simulator ....was WTB: front seat belt receptacles This is a good thread http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=558227 Also I believe Jim Powell created a circuit for this issue. I tried looking for it @ www.apexcone.com/JimPowellHomepage/index2.html however it looks like he is no longer sharing. Also check Mileone for pricing as they seem competitive @ 72118167719 $103.60 - LOWER BLT W/L BLT TE www.mileoneparts.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=214336 KLB ------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:27:44 -0500 From: shelhart2@aol.com Subject: WTB: front seat belt receptacles I went online and found a single recepacle without the rest of the sensors / tensioners, etc.? It comes off a E34 5 series and has a part number of 72-11-8-167-719 and lists for $129 on Pelican...? Bottom line is that I think it's a ridiculous price for one receptacle.? The stealer wants the same.? Anyone have a set of front seat belt receptacles they'd sell at a reasonable price?? I already have the stock one off the E36 power vaders with the pre tensioner and sensor cable and only want the "single receptacle without all the garbage attached.? Email me if anyone has two. Shel 1995 M3 2005 330CI
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#4. RE: Seatbelt receptacle Simulator ....was WTB: front seat belt receptacles - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:42:04 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Seatbelt receptacle Simulator ....was WTB: front seat belt receptacles Plus this thread from a local guy - http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum//showthread.php?t=139336 KLB > Subject: Seatbelt receptacle Simulator ....was WTB: front seat belt > receptacles > > This is a good thread > http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=558227 > > Also I believe Jim Powell created a circuit for this issue. > I tried looking for it @ > www.apexcone.com/JimPowellHomepage/index2.html however it looks like > he is no longer sharing. > Also check Mileone for pricing as they seem competitive @ 72118167719 > $103.60 - LOWER BLT W/L BLT TE > www.mileoneparts.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=214336 > KLB > ------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:27:44 -0500 > From: shelhart2@aol.com > Subject: WTB: front seat belt receptacles > > I went online and found a single recepacle without the rest of the > sensors / tensioners, etc.? It comes off a E34 5 series and has a part > number of 72-11-8-167-719 and lists for $129 on Pelican...? Bottom > line is that I think it's a ridiculous price for one receptacle.? The > stealer wants the same.? > > Anyone have a set of front seat belt receptacles they'd sell at a > reasonable price?? I already have the stock one off the E36 power > vaders with the pre tensioner and sensor cable and only want the > "single receptacle without all the garbage attached.? Email me if > anyone has two. > > Shel 1995 M3 2005 330CI >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] aftermarket seats and belts - from shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:49:44 -0500 From: shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] aftermarket seats and belts Good data points.? Here is what I've decided: The E30 M3 front receptacles (with the wire) are $40 new from the dealer and they have them in stock.? I went on real OEM and found the right year that had the single pole without the E36 power vader pre tensioner.? The E34 5 series single pole were $129.? Go figure...?? I have taken all of the seat sensors from underneath the stock?vaders and will hook back up in the new seat (zip tie, etc.).? I'll leave the SRS light on and live with it.? I'm assuming that the side bags will still be active if I go this route.? Am I correct? Shel?? -----Original Message----- From: Marc Plante <marcva@gmail.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 2:39 pm Subject: Re: [E36M3] aftermarket seats and belts Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:30:24 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] aftermarket seats and belts I put SRDs in my car, and in the process, triggered one of the pretensioners in the car iny my 325 and had to replace it. The second time I did it in my M3/4, I got out the stock wire without much incident and used the stock receiver. You can do without it, though it is an integral part of the car's safety system. Without it, the seatbelts won't do their job right. Is your safety worth $120? You have to do a little fiddling to get the wire out from the guts of the stock seat. Work with a pair of snips to cut the myriad of zip ties and some sort of a rod to compress the foam so you can pull the wire out. If you've already cut the wire, I'd recommend replacing the unit. Similarly, you're going to have to: a) Work the passenger seat sensor out for the passenger airbag b) Buy a replacement c) work on a resistor based way to "trick" the SRS sensor d) turn off the light. For C or D, are you OK with your passengers not having an airbag? For a track car with other safety measures. Otherwise, I feel a little better with my system intact. I worked the passenger sensor out of the seat and put it under the seat cushion of my passenger SRD. It's a bit fiddly to get it out of the stock seat, but not that bad. I think it took me about 30-45 mins and most of that was trying to figure out how to do it rather than just executing. Marc Plante E36 M3/4/5 82k Recaro SRDs, Shift Kit, Ellipsoids ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
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#6. Re: [E36M3] New Corbeau Seats in - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:43:31 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Corbeau Seats in In a message dated 2/20/2008 12:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM writes: Don't bother pulling the SRS bulb it will still glow even when bulb removed. What's with that? It can't be related to the cockroach ;-)) Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue Engineering **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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#7. Re: [E36M3] New Corbeau Seats in - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:56:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Corbeau Seats in On Wed, February 20, 2008 2:49 pm, Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/20/2008 12:00:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM writes: > > Don't bother pulling the SRS bulb it > will still glow even when bulb removed. > > > What's with that? It can't be related to the cockroach ;-)) There's a "back-up" bulb on the circuit board. You can see this on the schematics in the Bentley, BTW. Pull the bulb, cut the appropriate wire (violet/white on a 1993 325is IIRC :-)), no more SRS light. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP
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#8. Re: [E36M3] New Corbeau Seats in - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:02:06 -0500 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Corbeau Seats in On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > There's a "back-up" bulb on the circuit board. You can see this on the > schematics in the Bentley, BTW. > > Pull the bulb, cut the appropriate wire (violet/white on a 1993 325is IIRC > :-)), no more SRS light. If we've switched gears to full on track cars then pulling that little box from under the rear seat cushion did it for me. No SRS lights on my M3 and I haven't touched the cluster or the wiring. :-) Carlos 98 M3 97 540i/6
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Getting at the seat sensors - from Marc Plante
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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:32:01 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Getting at the seat sensors for the tensioner, they took great pains to snake the cable between the shell and the seat padding. I used, i think a wooden spoon from the kitchen to compress the foam as I worked loose the cable. Think I needed to snip a bit of the bottom of the shell here and there (it's thin particle board with half dollar sized holes in it here and there), though not much. the passenger seat sensor is not bad once you figure it out. Turn over the seat and loosen the allen screws that hold the hard plastic frame onto the bottom cushion. then pry the two apart. the sensor is stuck to the plastic frame with a bit of rubber cement that has a snot-like (sorry) consistency. Use a spatula (note the kitchen theme. I'm becoming sooo domestic with the kids), to gently pry it up from the frame and pull it out. One thing I haven't done with my passenger SRD is to get something rigid to put under the sensor mat. The bottom of the SRD is actually elastic sheeting, and I find there's enough flex that the sensor triggers once a year or so if a particularly "diametrically challenged" individual sits in the seat. Fortunately, Bill Shook, my mechanic resets it for free. On 2/21/08, Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> wrote: > > Good advice, Marc. When I get aftermarket seats, I want to try to keep > the > safety system in place, similar to the way you did it. I have one Vader > out > of my car now, and I am going to spend some time this week-end checking > out > the sensor/tensioner set up. > > Matt Bader > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Plante [mailto:marcva@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:40 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] aftermarket seats and belts > > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:30:24 -0500 > From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] aftermarket seats and belts > > I put SRDs in my car, and in the process, triggered one of the > pretensioners > in the car iny my 325 and had to replace it. The second time I did it in > my > M3/4, I got out the stock wire without much incident and used the stock > receiver. You can do without it, though it is an integral part of the > car's > safety system. Without it, the seatbelts won't do their job right. Is > your > safety worth $120? > > You have to do a little fiddling to get the wire out from the guts of the > stock seat. Work with a pair of snips to cut the myriad of zip ties and > some sort of a rod to compress the foam so you can pull the wire out. If > you've already cut the wire, I'd recommend replacing the unit. Similarly, > you're going to have to: > > a) Work the passenger seat sensor out for the passenger airbag > b) Buy a replacement > c) work on a resistor based way to "trick" the SRS sensor > d) turn off the light. > > For C or D, are you OK with your passengers not having an airbag? > > For a track car with other safety measures. Otherwise, I feel a little > better with my system intact. I worked the passenger sensor out of the > seat > and put it under the seat cushion of my passenger SRD. It's a bit fiddly > to > get it out of the stock seat, but not that bad. I think it took me about > 30-45 mins and most of that was trying to figure out how to do it rather > than just executing. > > Marc Plante > E36 M3/4/5 82k > Recaro SRDs, Shift Kit, Ellipsoids > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > >
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#10. If you're going to sell your car... - from Marc Plante
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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:40:04 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> Subject: If you're going to sell your car... Please consider forwarding a link to Bill Shook at onlybmw@aol.com Bill is the chief instructor at the NCC chapter. He is also a mechanic that runs a great one-man shop in Alexandria, VA. He also drives the hell out of an E30 325, that is starting to fall apart, and, though he won't admit it he needs a new car (cobblers shoes kind of thing). He'd prefer bone stock, and he's not looking for a highly modded track car with a stiff suspension (this is his daily driver, and as a chief instructor, he unfortunately doesn't get to drive much). Not saying he'll jump on the car. I just feel he needs prodding. It seems a shame that one of the better drivers in the chapter is pushing a tired car around the track. I've always thought of offering him my car when the time comes, but I don't know if I'll ever sell it. Seems like the E82/92s are $45k+ cars by the time you're done with them (LSD, etc), and you're still hauling around 3400 lbs. Thanks, Marc Plante E36 M3/4/5 82k Vienna, VA