E36M3 #5581

Monday, February 25, 2008 13:35:02

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Summer Track Oil - from kjk
#2. Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Jay Hudson
#3. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Marco Romani
#4. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Walter J
#5. Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Lee Piccione
#6. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Paul L Fisher
#7. GC camber plate hat? - from Tim DE Instructor
#8. Re: [E36M3] On Board Computer Connector Needed - from Kent L. Shephard
#9. Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Jim Bassett
#10. Peake SRS/airbag tool needed - San Jose area - from Steve Sharp

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#1. Summer Track Oil - from kjk
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:04:11 -0800 (PST) From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> Subject: Summer Track Oil Bob Gill wrote: "Don't even get me started on motor oils. I've been tracking the labeling on several products recently, and it appears that several are reducing the zinc and phosphorus that make up the anti-wear additive ZDDP which is key to internal lubrication. Mobil 1 15W50 still uses the 'right' amount of zinc. The newer SM and CJ-4 oils are not good. API SG-SJ is good as well as the European ACEA A3/B3 class." Check out Brad Penn's website. The presence of zinc in their oil is one reason it is recommended by many. it is the same Pennsylvania crude They bought Kendall's refinery so it is the same base as Kendall GT. http://www.bradpennracing.com/history.html Kevin --- E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> wrote: > ************************************************************** > E36M3 List - Forum for Discussion of E36M3 Series > Automobiles > ************************************************************** > BMWMPower on the Web: http://www.bmw-m.net > ************************************************************** > > This digest contains the following messages: > > 1. Re: [E36M3] Summer track oil - Amsoil 20w50? > by: Carlos Lopez <clopez98m3@gmail.com> > 2. Re: [E36M3] Summer track oil - Amsoil 20w50? > by: <Mdriver13@aol.com> > 3. Re: Summer track oil - Amsoil 20w50? > by: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > 4. Summer track oil - Amsoil 20w50? > by: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> > 5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Summer track oil - Amsoil > 20w50? > by: Kent L. Shephard <e36m3@kshephard.com> > 6. On Board Computer Connector Needed > by: Jeff Bjerke <jbjerke@charter.net> > 7. Differential oil > by: <Shelhart2@aol.com> > 8. Re: [E36M3] Differential oil > by: Jay Hudson <jwhud@budget.net> > 9. Re: [E36M3] Differential oil > by: Lee Piccione <leepic@smart.net> > 10. Re: [E36M3] Differential oil > by: <Shelhart2@aol.com> > 11. Re: [E36M3] Differential oil > by: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> > > -------------------- 1 -------------------- > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:05:59 -0500 > From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Summer track oil - Amsoil > 20w50? > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Jim Bassett > <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > > Bimwad Bob > > 95 M3 LTW > > 88 M3 club racer > > (both currently in hibernation) > > That message is so old (how old is it???) > > It is so old he sold the LTW to Marc E. back in '99 > O'fest, and I haven't seen > him club race the E30 M3 in at least 5 years. :-) > > I think current oils in my cars are BMW Synth in the > 540i and > the '98 M3 has been running Castrol Syntec 5W50 > since the previous > owner and I don't want > to jinx it. The lifters have always been quiet even > after autox > runs/track events and the car makes > plenty of power (dynoed last year at Mid-Ohio). I > was going to switch > it to Royal Purple but I think > I'll stick with what has worked for the last 10 > years. If the thing > lets go at some point I may rethink > that decision. :-) > > Carlos > 98 M3 > 97 540i/6 > > > > -------------------- 2 -------------------- > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:59:23 EST > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Summer track oil - Amsoil > 20w50? > > Don't even get me started on motor oils. I've been > tracking the labeling on > several products recently, and it appears that > several are reducing the zinc > and phosphorus that make up the anti-wear additive > ZDDP which is key to > internal lubrication. Mobil 1 15W50 still uses the > 'right' amount of zinc. The > newer SM and CJ-4 oils are not good. API SG-SJ is > good as well as the European > ACEA A3/B3 class. > > If you want to read more on this subject google: LN > Engineering / Charles > Navarro -- What motor oil is best for my aircooled > Porsche? (or any high > performance engine) > > cheers, > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 > coupe > Philly Region SCCA > 2005 / 2006 Philly Region BSP Champion > Sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & Rogue > Engineering > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch > video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > > > -------------------- 3 -------------------- > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:27:10 -0500 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Re: Summer track oil - Amsoil 20w50? > > on 2/22/08 6:34 PM, "Kent L. Shephard" > <e36m3@kshephard.com> wrote: > > > I only use Series 2K 20W50. All year. Street > driven. > > Which isn't meaningful to anyone else without > knowing whether you live in > Minneapolis or Miami. > > Neil > Fort Wayne, IN > 96 M3 - Bastard child > 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic > 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD > > > > > > > -------------------- 4 -------------------- > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:04:17 -0800 (PST) > From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> > Subject: Summer track oil - Amsoil 20w50? > > My mechanic has me running Swepco 20w50 all the > time. > I live in California though. I run Brad Penn 20w50 > in > the M5 because it is good stuff and I get it way > cheaper than the usual suspects. In fact, I should > be > running that in the M3 as well for about $3/quart. > > http://www.bradpennracing.com/ > > Kevin Kelly > '95 M3 > '91 M5 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:24:51 -0800 > From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Summer track oil - Amsoil > 20w50? > > Absolutely correct, I stand corrected. > I'm in Northern Ca. where we see freezing only > occasionally. > Summer temps rarely in excess of 100 deg. for any > length of time. > > On Feb 23, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Neil Maller wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:27:10 -0500 > > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > > Subject: Re: Summer track oil - Amsoil 20w50? > > > > on 2/22/08 6:34 PM, "Kent L. Shephard" > <e36m3@kshephard.com> wrote: > > > >> I only use Series 2K 20W50. All year. Street > driven. > > > > Which isn't meaningful to anyone else without > knowing whether you > > live in > > Minneapolis or Miami. > > > > Neil > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:44:17 -0800 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Differential oil +1 Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Thomas" <dave@sasdatalink.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Differential oil > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:42:07 -0800 > From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Differential oil > > On Sunday 24 February 2008 2:34:39 pm Lee Piccione wrote: >> I was told by Performance Gearing and the BMW used parts place in >> Indiana (who's name >> I am at a lose for) says DO NOT use a gear oil w/ a slip additive! >> -lee > > They said that for a M3? If so, they would be wrong. > > Dave

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#3. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Marco Romani
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:16:28 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <marco@corsa-na.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil The theory is for performance you use non LS oil and if you hear chatter you add friction modifier in tiny increments until the diff is quiet. Redline sells friction modifier. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Dave Thomas [mailto:dave@sasdatalink.com] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:45 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:42:07 -0800 From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Differential oil On Sunday 24 February 2008 2:34:39 pm Lee Piccione wrote: > I was told by Performance Gearing and the BMW used parts place in > Indiana (who's name > I am at a lose for) says DO NOT use a gear oil w/ a slip additive! > -lee They said that for a M3? If so, they would be wrong. Dave ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1295 - Release Date: 2/23/2008 9:35 PM

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#4. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Walter J
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:05:48 -0500 From: "Walter J" <walter.gator@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil I have run it in all my cars for years w/o problems. The M3's diff is still hooking up after many thousands of track miles.

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Lee Piccione
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:33:57 -0500 From: Lee Piccione <leepic@smart.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Differential oil I run RedLine 75W90 w/o slip additive, that's what I was told... Dave Thomas wrote: >Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:42:07 -0800 >From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Differential oil > >On Sunday 24 February 2008 2:34:39 pm Lee Piccione wrote: > > >>I was told by Performance Gearing and the BMW used parts place in >>Indiana (who's name >>I am at a lose for) says DO NOT use a gear oil w/ a slip additive! >>-lee >> >> > >They said that for a M3? If so, they would be wrong. > >Dave > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > >

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#6. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:44:43 -0600 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil IIRC, the only thing the limited slip additive does is quiets the diff down. I do not believe harm is done if you run non LSD oil in a LSD. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic Become a BMW CCA Member! Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Walter J [mailto:walter.gator@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:15 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:05:48 -0500 From: "Walter J" <walter.gator@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Differential oil I have run it in all my cars for years w/o problems. The M3's diff is still hooking up after many thousands of track miles. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1295 - Release Date: 2/23/2008 9:35 PM

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#7. GC camber plate hat? - from Tim DE Instructor
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:52:42 -0500 From: Tim DE Instructor <s14realm3@hotmail.com> Subject: GC camber plate hat? I have 2 sets of hats for the GC camber plates, one is for 95 and the other is for later. How do I know which one is which? looks to me like one has less caster (powdercoated black) and the other is painted silverish grey. How do I tell which is which? Tim Ng BMWCCA # 3649795 BUZZNM3 dakar yella94 325i future track car92 325ic M-Technic pkg91 M3 garage queen88 M3/2.5 DM race car------------------project90 535ia------------------Pace shadow 26 ft enclosed trailermy web page:http://groups.msn.com/M3stuff/pictures

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#8. Re: [E36M3] On Board Computer Connector Needed - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:08:01 -0800 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <e36m3@kshephard.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] On Board Computer Connector Needed Hi, I have a dead computer (screen cracked) and part of the harness (connector) that plugs into it. My replacement came with art f the harness still attached. What do you need? On Feb 23, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Jeff Bjerke wrote: > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:47:01 -0500 > From: Jeff Bjerke <jbjerke@charter.net> > Subject: On Board Computer Connector Needed > > My 11 button OBC on my 98 M3 lost most of it's pixels. I have > picked up an 18 button and have instructions to wire for most of > the 18 button functions.. The piece I will need is the white X1071 > connector that the 11-Button OBC doesn’t have. > > Does anyone have one of these? Maybe a recent race car conversion, > salvage car etc? > > Drop me a note if you have one available. > > Jeff Bjerke > 98 Red/Black M3 Coupe > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Differential oil - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:37:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Differential oil On Sun, February 24, 2008 5:34 pm, Lee Piccione wrote: > I run RedLine 75W90 w/o slip additive, that's what I was told... Just to clear up what appears to be some confusion, there are two Red Line ear oil for the diff. 75W90 - for use in LS & non-LS diffs. This has the friction modifiers for LS diffs. I suspect this is what most of are using (I use it in both cars). 75W90NS - this version does NOT contain the friction modifiers for LS diffs. This is probably used in more specialize applications; off-hand, I don't know anyone who uses it. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP

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#10. Peake SRS/airbag tool needed - San Jose area - from Steve Sharp
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:26:23 -0800 From: "Steve Sharp" <steve.sharp@xilinx.com> Subject: Peake SRS/airbag tool needed - San Jose area Is there anyone on the list in the San Jose area with a SRS/airbag scan/reset tool that I could borrow for a few days? I have a fault I suspect is the passenger seatbelt latch that I need to verify and then reset after I replace the part. Thanks, Steve

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