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#1. Re: [E36M3] "Brake light circuit" warning? - from Bill and Jan Klemme
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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:14:15 -0400 From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] "Brake light circuit" warning? Thanks! It's always nice to know my problems aren't unique. As for the bulb holders, is it possible to spritz them with WD-40 to make better contact? My old Volvo 240's always had power window issues because of poor contact in the switches. An almost infallible fix was to spray that stuff generously into the rocker switches....don't even have to take them apart. Regards, Bill Mark D wrote: > Bill and Jan Klemme wrote: >> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:19:17 -0400 >> From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> >> Subject: "Brake light circuit" warning? >> >> I have a feeling there are more people out there who are getting this >> message in the display because I know another guy who has the same >> thing....I have been getting this warning ever since we bought our >> '99 5 years ago. It appears to be random, and may stick on the >> display after I shut off the car and get back in later... or not. It >> eventually goes away,and eventually comes back...once or twice a year >> maybe. I've removed the LED lights and examined them...they all work, >> and the other brake lights have always worked. Yes I can continue to >> ignore it, but ding dang it, does anyone know how to fix it? >> Regards, >> Bill K > This happens to pretty much every single owner. It's the brake light > circuit switch (as you'd expect) and it's down near the brake pedal. > It has a small plastic piston that pushes against the brake pedal and > when you press the pedal it turns the brake lights on. The switch > itself is probably fine but it also has a test connection since you > have an OBC which causes this fault. Replace the whole unit @$30 and > it will never come back (at least mine hasn't in 70,000 miles). After > this you'll just have to deal with omnipresent brake light failure > messages due to corrosion on the bulb holders. Make sure you get the > one for OBC which has a different connector. > > Thanks, > Mark > >
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#2. Paint my rotors? - from Bill and Jan Klemme
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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:24:01 -0400 From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> Subject: Paint my rotors? OK you folks are just too good of a resource to pass up......I installed rotors and pads from Bavarian Auto last Fall and it seems to me the hubs are rusting something awful. At least I didn't notice them very much with the original factory rotors. (They "squawk" (not squeal) sometimes after sitting too, which is new). Seems the metal may be a different alloy or something? Anyway, I'd like to paint the hubs for a better look through the wheel, and wondered whether that might not be a good idea because of heat bubbling the paint or inhibiting cooling or something? (Especially on the pad contact surface.....just kidding just kidding!) I'm thinking Rustoleum.... Any advice? Thanks, Bill K
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? - from Shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:27:36 EDT From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? I used black high heat stove paint on the rotor caps oon a prior M3 and they held up very well. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:48:57 -0400 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? I used Krylon high temp exhaust paint, and it seemed to work OK. I do respray when I change pads. Chris ---- Shelhart2@aol.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:27:36 EDT > From: Shelhart2@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? > > I used black high heat stove paint on the rotor caps oon a prior M3 and they > held up very well. > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? - from ProBikeGuy
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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:30:10 -0500 From: "ProBikeGuy" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? No, use VHT High heat engine paint. I have used black, and a color that looks like aluminum. really looks nice on a street car with wheels you can see through to the rotor.. I also painted the calipers silver on the street car. gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill and Jan Klemme" <wklemme@gmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:24:01 -0400 > From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> > Subject: Paint my rotors? > > OK you folks are just too good of a resource to pass up......I installed > rotors and pads from Bavarian Auto last Fall and it seems to me the hubs > are rusting something awful. At least I didn't notice them very much with > the original factory rotors. (They "squawk" (not squeal) sometimes after > sitting too, which is new). Seems the metal may be a different alloy or > something? Anyway, I'd like to paint the hubs for a better look through > the wheel, and wondered whether that might not be a good idea because of > heat bubbling the paint or inhibiting cooling or something? (Especially > on the pad contact surface.....just kidding just kidding!) I'm thinking > Rustoleum.... > Any advice? > Thanks, > Bill K > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? - from David Michael
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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:17:09 -0400 From: "David Michael" <adavidmichael@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? I have used both "high temp" black stove paint as well as plain old black rustoleum. Both work, though I no longer drive my car on the track and the rotors don't get terribly hot. However, the plain rustoluem always seems to smell a bit when the brakes get used at all (ie, when I drive the car), even l after one year. I don't just paint the hats. I paint EVERYTHING by dipping the rotors in a pan fillied with paint. That way the fins get paint on them too. The pads clean the paint off easily, and then a few hard stops seems to burn the paint off the pads (warning, this system works for me, I in no way claim that it will work for you.....). Dave 98 m3/4 96,000 On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:24:01 -0400 > From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> > Subject: Paint my rotors? > > OK you folks are just too good of a resource to pass up......I installed > rotors and pads from Bavarian Auto last Fall and it seems to me the hubs > are rusting something awful. At least I didn't notice them very much > with the original factory rotors. (They "squawk" (not squeal) sometimes > after sitting too, which is new). Seems the metal may be a different > alloy or something? Anyway, I'd like to paint the hubs for a better > look through the wheel, and wondered whether that might not be a good > idea because of heat bubbling the paint or inhibiting cooling or > something? (Especially on the pad contact surface.....just kidding just > kidding!) I'm thinking Rustoleum.... > Any advice? > Thanks, > Bill K > > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Suspension refresh question - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:41:04 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension refresh question They aren't stronger, the ball joints are not as robust, the aluminum is more prone to cracking and they are less stiff than steel E36 M3 control arms. They weren't designed for the E36 M3 and even when used on the lighter and less powerful E30 M3, more frequent replacement is recommended on the E30 M3 particularly in track usage (more frequent than typically recommended of the E36 M3 with their stock steel arms). Stick with stock E36 M3 Lemforder steel control arms unless a minuscule amount of unsprung weight savings and more frequent, more expensive aluminum arm replacement appeals to you. Regards, Rich On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Jerry Brown <dotmumble@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:14:57 +0100, Rich Dorffer <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> > wrote: > > And the aluminum control arms are an improvent over new control arms > how? > > Stronger, less unsprung weight. Admittedly, not that important to some > owners. > > Cheers, > -jerry
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Suspension refresh question - from Jack - Elephant Motorsports
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:49:24 -0400 From: "Jack - Elephant Motorsports" <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension refresh question Actually from what I've been able to determine the reason for frequent replacement recommendation is based more on failures due to improper installation rather than part degredation. At least I'll say there is more evidence/proof that is the case. Seems a lot of people like to overtorque them. It's interesting that CR recommends replacing stock arms with the aluminum arms, both E30 and E36, but again, I've seen no real evidence it's necessary. As for the ball joint robustness and stiffness of the arm....I don't think I've ever seen anyone say this, just curious as to where this comes from. Cheers. Jack Money On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Rich Dorffer <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:41:04 -0400 > From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension refresh question > > They aren't stronger, the ball joints are not as robust, the aluminum is > more prone to cracking and they are less stiff than steel E36 M3 control > arms. They weren't designed for the E36 M3 and even when used on the > lighter and less powerful E30 M3, more frequent replacement is recommended > on the E30 M3 particularly in track usage (more frequent than typically > recommended of the E36 M3 with their stock steel arms). > > Stick with stock E36 M3 Lemforder steel control arms unless a minuscule > amount of unsprung weight savings and more frequent, more expensive > aluminum > arm replacement appeals to you. > > Regards, > > Rich > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Jerry Brown <dotmumble@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:14:57 +0100, Rich Dorffer <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > And the aluminum control arms are an improvent over new control arms > > how? > > > > Stronger, less unsprung weight. Admittedly, not that important to some > > owners. > > > > Cheers, > > -jerry > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Suspension refresh question - from Bill and Jan Klemme
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:49:36 -0400 From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension refresh question Does anyone ever simply replace the ball joints in the old arms? Wouldn't that be a less expensive way, besides avoiding the waste of throwing away a perfectly good piece of steel? Maybe this practice was started by repair shops who just were in a hurry to finish the job in the least amount of time, and pass the cost along to the customer? Or...is it even possible to buy the ball joints by themselves? Seems strange to me. Regards, Bill Rich Dorffer wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:41:04 -0400 > From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension refresh question > > They aren't stronger, the ball joints are not as robust, the aluminum is > more prone to cracking and they are less stiff than steel E36 M3 control > arms. They weren't designed for the E36 M3 and even when used on the > lighter and less powerful E30 M3, more frequent replacement is recommended > on the E30 M3 particularly in track usage (more frequent than typically > recommended of the E36 M3 with their stock steel arms). > > Stick with stock E36 M3 Lemforder steel control arms unless a minuscule > amount of unsprung weight savings and more frequent, more expensive aluminum > arm replacement appeals to you. > > Regards, > > Rich >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? - from Bill and Jan Klemme
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:57:18 -0400 From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? Wow, I never would have tried putting paint on the pad surface for fear of putting a "permanent" surface on the pads. Guess it works for you, and it's great to have the entire rotor protected....must look good. Thanks to the group for the responses.....I am surely going to paint those puppies as soon as the weather gets above 40 in the garage and I take the "winter wheels" off. Regards, Bill K '99 M3 convertible getting ready for sale '99 M3 Dinan S3 coming soon! David Michael wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:17:09 -0400 > From: "David Michael" <adavidmichael@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Paint my rotors? > > I have used both "high temp" black stove paint as well as plain old black > rustoleum. Both work, though I no longer drive my car on the track and the > rotors don't get terribly hot. However, the plain rustoluem always seems to > smell a bit when the brakes get used at all (ie, when I drive the car), even > l after one year. I don't just paint the hats. I paint EVERYTHING by dipping > the rotors in a pan fillied with paint. That way the fins get paint on them > too. The pads clean the paint off easily, and then a few hard stops seems > to burn the paint off the pads (warning, this system works for me, I in no > way claim that it will work for you.....). > > Dave > 98 m3/4 96,000 > > > >