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#1. Re: [E36M3] HP calculation - from Jeff Conner
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:45:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] HP calculation IIRC, it's WHP x 1.18, so in your case 290. Very nice numbers for a car without cams. Some people use a 1.15 multiplier, but even the 282 that you'd get from that is nice as well. I'd be thrilled with those in my 95. Save for the track pipe, I have a similar setup. I'm actually getting the car dyno'd next saturday, so I'll be able to report back. My completely uneducated guess is that my car is somewhere ~ 225. It'll be nice to know for sure -jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: "Resener, Kurt" <KurtResener@IamMorrison.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:34:56 AM Subject: [E36M3] HP calculation Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:31:11 -0400 From: "Resener, Kurt" <KurtResener@IamMorrison.com> Subject: HP calculation So I had my car dyno'd yesterday after having the Bimmerworld Stage II kit installed, along with an Active Autowerks track pipe and new valve springs and retainers. Car dyno'd at 246 HP. I'm told that stock "95's usually dyno at around 200 so I'm happy with the results, although I was hoping for the advertised 40+ from the stage II kit and 20+ from the track pipe I realize that it may not add up perfectly like that. I ended up losing 268 pounds through my interior stripping project recently so that will translate to a quicker "feel" on the track and add to the increased HP. My question is, what is the correct math to use to figure what HP I now have at the motor? Kurt J. Resener DISCLAIMER Important! This message is intended for the above named person(s) only and is CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and then delete it from your mailbox. This message may be protected by the attorney-client privilege and/or work product doctrine. Accessing, copying, disseminating or re-using any of the information contained in this e-mail by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. Finally, you should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses, as the sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Thank you. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Gloves for working on cars- from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:03:03 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Gloves for working on cars <was> Okay tuff guy :) So you've never had it pop off and send your hand into something with an edge and open up a knuckle? You probably shouldn't wear eye protection either (lotsa smiley faces) :) :) If you have a tendency to over oil your impact gun like I do, you have a pair of ratty gloves which serve dual purpose. In my opinion, (key word opinion) a long day of wrench twisting doesn't seem as long with gloves on. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Bauer [mailto:chrisbauer@vzavenue.net] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:45 AM To: Goss, Patrick - PA; E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Gloves for working on cars <was> me? impact gun bare handed? yes, dozens of times Chris never had a grip problem ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:44:56 -0600 >From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> >Better grip = better twist. Safety comes to mind also. Ever used an >impact gun bare handed? >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] HP calculation - from Russel DeArman
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:25:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Russel DeArman <russde_93@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] HP calculation HP at crank = (246) + (246 * 0.20) ; assuming a 20% drivetrain loss, I've never seen figures for average drivetrain loss on the M3's, but 20% is a figure that gets thrown around for 'most' manual trans cars. Healthy car!! Russ "Resener, Kurt" <KurtResener@IamMorrison.com> wrote: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:31:11 -0400 From: "Resener, Kurt" Subject: HP calculation So I had my car dyno'd yesterday after having the Bimmerworld Stage II kit installed, along with an Active Autowerks track pipe and new valve springs and retainers. Car dyno'd at 246 HP. I'm told that stock "95's usually dyno at around 200 so I'm happy with the results, although I was hoping for the advertised 40+ from the stage II kit and 20+ from the track pipe I realize that it may not add up perfectly like that. I ended up losing 268 pounds through my interior stripping project recently so that will translate to a quicker "feel" on the track and add to the increased HP. My question is, what is the correct math to use to figure what HP I now have at the motor? Kurt J. Resener DISCLAIMER Important! This message is intended for the above named person(s) only and is CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and then delete it from your mailbox.. This message may be protected by the attorney-client privilege and/or work product doctrine. Accessing, copying, disseminating or re-using any of the information contained in this e-mail by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. Finally, you should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses, as the sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Thank you. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
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#4. Coolant reservoir tank - from Robert Exconde
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:29:50 -0500 From: "Robert Exconde" <99e36m3@exconde.com> Subject: Coolant reservoir tank Well I started overheating yesterday and I pulled over to find that I had a slow coolant leak I filled up at the next station and I managed to get home (never over heated). I think that the leak is in the tank near the sensor, I'm not sure since the water could be lingering there due to splashing. I'm going to replace the reservoir, coolant sensor, and probably the lower hose to the pump (Pump changed about 40-50, and upper hose about 20K back). Is there anything that I should change or check while I'm in there (other hoses I'm not thinking of) ? I replaced the radiator about 40-50K back. I can pretty much go to the dealer to identify and pick up the parts but if anyone has the PN#s handy, that would be great. (still haven’t unpacked the rest of the house) Thanks, Robert 99-e36-M3 183,000mi No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1329 - Release Date: 3/14/2008 12:33 PM
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#5. Re: [E36M3] HP calculation - from shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:09:46 -0400 From: shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] HP calculation I think you lose somewhere between 12-15% through the drivetrain. Shel -----Original Message----- From: Resener, Kurt <KurtResener@IamMorrison.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:34 am Subject: [E36M3] HP calculation Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:31:11 -0400 From: "Resener, Kurt" <KurtResener@IamMorrison.com> Subject: HP calculation So I had my car dyno'd yesterday after having the Bimmerworld Stage II kit installed, along with an Active Autowerks track pipe and new valve springs and retainers. Car dyno'd at 246 HP. I'm told that stock "95's usually dyno at around 200 so I'm happy with the results, although I was hoping for the advertised 40+ from the stage II kit and 20+ from the track pipe I realize that it may not add up perfectly like that. I ended up losing 268 pounds through my interior stripping project recently so that will translate to a quicker "feel" on the track and add to the increased HP. My question is, what is the correct math to use to figure what HP I now have at the motor? Kurt J. Resener DISCLAIMER Important! This message is intended for the above named person(s) only and is CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and then delete it from your mailbox. This message may be protected by the attorney-client privilege and/or work product doctrine. Accessing, copying, disseminating or re-using any of the information contained in this e-mail by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. Finally, you should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses, as the sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Thank you. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Coolant reservoir tank - from shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:13:33 -0400 From: shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coolant reservoir tank I think I have a spare coolant resevoir in the garage off my 95. I put in the Zionsville rad and it came with a new resevoir. Shel -----Original Message----- From: Robert Exconde <99e36m3@exconde.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:34 am Subject: [E36M3] Coolant reservoir tank Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:29:50 -0500 rom: "Robert Exconde" <99e36m3@exconde.com> ubject: Coolant reservoir tank Well I started overheating yesterday and I pulled over to find that I had a low coolant leak I filled up at the next station and I managed to get home (never over eated). I think that the leak is in the tank near the sensor, I'm not sure since the ater could be lingering there due to splashing. I'm going to replace the reservoir, coolant sensor, and probably the lower ose to the pump (Pump changed about 40-50, and upper hose about 20K back). s there anything that I should change or check while I'm in there (other oses I'm not thinking of) ? I replaced the radiator about 40-50K back. I can pretty much go to the dealer to identify and pick up the parts but if nyone has the PN#s handy, that would be great. (still haven’t unpacked the est of the house) Thanks, obert 9-e36-M3 83,000mi No virus found in this outgoing message. hecked by AVG. ersion: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1329 - Release Date: 3/14/2008 2:33 PM ************************************************* lease help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com urner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com urosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com ogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com reehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com lephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: ttp://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Coolant reservoir tank - from Robert Exconde
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:16:44 -0500 From: "Robert Exconde" <99e36m3@exconde.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coolant reservoir tank I would take you up on it but I guess unless you are in the Chicagoland area, this wont be possible. The M3 is my daily driver and I need to get up and running asap. I’m running in a rented ford fusion right now and its not fun. Thanks for the offer, Robert From: shelhart2@aol.com [mailto:shelhart2@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:14 AM To: 99e36m3@exconde.com; e36m3@bmw-m.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coolant reservoir tank I think I have a spare coolant resevoir in the garage off my 95. I put in the Zionsville rad and it came with a new resevoir. Shel -----Original Message----- From: Robert Exconde <99e36m3@exconde.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:34 am Subject: [E36M3] Coolant reservoir tank Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:29:50 -0500 From: "Robert Exconde" <HYPERLINK "mailto:99e36m3@exconde.com"99e36m3@exconde.com> Subject: Coolant reservoir tank Well I started overheating yesterday and I pulled over to find that I had a slow coolant leak I filled up at the next station and I managed to get home (never over heated). I think that the leak is in the tank near the sensor, I'm not sure since the water could be lingering there due to splashing. I'm going to replace the reservoir, coolant sensor, and probably the lower hose to the pump (Pump changed about 40-50, and upper hose about 20K back). Is there anything that I should change or check while I'm in there (other hoses I'm not thinking of) ? I replaced the radiator about 40-50K back. I can pretty much go to the dealer to identify and pick up the parts but if anyone has the PN#s handy, that would be great. (still haven’t unpacked the rest of the house) Thanks, Robert 99-e36-M3 183,000mi No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1329 - Release Date: 3/14/2008 12:33 PM ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld HYPERLINK "http://www.bimmerworld.com/" \nhttp://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport HYPERLINK "http://www.turnermotorsport.com/" \nhttp://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance HYPERLINK "http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com/" \nhttp://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering HYPERLINK "http://www.rogueengineering.com/" \nhttp://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing HYPERLINK "http://www.treehouseracing.com/" \nhttp://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. HYPERLINK "http://www.elephantmotorsports.com/" \nhttp://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: HYPERLINK "http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm" \nhttp://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* _____ Supercharge your AIM. Get the HYPERLINK "http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586" \nAIM toolbar for your browser. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1329 - Release Date: 3/14/2008 12:33 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1329 - Release Date: 3/14/2008 12:33 PM
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#8. Re: [E36M3] HP calculation - from Gary
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:21:53 -0500 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] HP calculation Typically the E36 driveline is fairly efficient under 20% most people use 17% 246whp from an S50 is pretty good. Bad news, the AA track pipe looses power. A Supersprint mid pipe makes slightly more than the AA unit on a dyno. You would probably pick up 5-7hp with a different mid pipe and muffler. My NA set up made 238hp/229trq in my 95 with an S52 motor and no cams...Had every other mod you could put on the motor. Taking the weight out is like "free power" ! Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel DeArman" <russde_93@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] HP calculation > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:25:16 -0700 (PDT) > From: Russel DeArman <russde_93@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] HP calculation > > HP at crank = (246) + (246 * 0.20) ; assuming a 20% drivetrain loss, I've > never seen figures for average drivetrain loss on the M3's, but 20% is a > figure that gets thrown around for 'most' manual trans cars. > Healthy car!! > > Russ > > "Resener, Kurt" <KurtResener@IamMorrison.com> wrote: Date: Fri, 14 Mar > 2008 10:31:11 -0400 > From: "Resener, Kurt" > Subject: HP calculation > > So I had my car dyno'd yesterday after having the Bimmerworld Stage II > kit installed, along with an Active Autowerks track pipe and new valve > springs and retainers. > > > > Car dyno'd at 246 HP. I'm told that stock "95's usually dyno at around > 200 so I'm happy with the results, although I was hoping for the > advertised 40+ from the stage II kit and 20+ from the track pipe I > realize that it may not add up perfectly like that. > > > > I ended up losing 268 pounds through my interior stripping project > recently so that will translate to a quicker "feel" on the track and add > to the increased HP. > > > > My question is, what is the correct math to use to figure what HP I now > have at the motor? > > > > Kurt J. Resener > > > > > DISCLAIMER Important! This message is intended for the above named > person(s) only and is CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY. If you are not the > intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please > immediately notify the sender by return email and then delete it from your > mailbox.. This message may be protected by the attorney-client privilege > and/or work product doctrine. Accessing, copying, disseminating or > re-using any of the information contained in this e-mail by anyone other > than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. Finally, you should > check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses, as the > sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted > by this email. Thank you. > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] HP calculation - from Daniel Lowe
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:38:50 -0400 From: "Daniel Lowe" <blackjackbimmer@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] HP calculation I have the full Stage III cam kit plus valve springs and retainers and I'm only putting out 227hp at the wheels. Apparently the cam timing may be 15 degrees off. I'm going to have Motorsports check it out. Per the dyno shop they used an 18% loss factor. DD On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Resener, Kurt <KurtResener@iammorrison.com> wrote: > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:31:11 -0400 > From: "Resener, Kurt" <KurtResener@IamMorrison.com> > Subject: HP calculation > > So I had my car dyno'd yesterday after having the Bimmerworld Stage II > kit installed, along with an Active Autowerks track pipe and new valve > springs and retainers. > > > > Car dyno'd at 246 HP. I'm told that stock "95's usually dyno at around > 200 so I'm happy with the results, although I was hoping for the > advertised 40+ from the stage II kit and 20+ from the track pipe I > realize that it may not add up perfectly like that. > > > > I ended up losing 268 pounds through my interior stripping project > recently so that will translate to a quicker "feel" on the track and add > to the increased HP. > > > > My question is, what is the correct math to use to figure what HP I now > have at the motor? > > > > Kurt J. Resener
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#10. Will this tire fit? - from Autoxcrazy
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:43:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Autoxcrazy <autoxcrazy@yahoo.com> Subject: Will this tire fit? Hello Group, I'm just about ready to purchase a new set of tires and I've been thinking about buying the RE-01R's. Any feedback on these tires? I have a set of SSR Integral wheels (8") and I've been running 235/40-17 tires on them (RE-750's). It's my understanding that a 245/40-17 tire (not sure about the RE-01R) will fit on the front w/o rubbing issues (I replaced my stock struts with Koni SA cartridges -- aka cut 'n gut -- other than that it's all stock). I'd hate to buy the larger size tires and have them rub -- I'm really not interested in running spacers. Can anyone tell me if these will fit or if I'll have rubbing issues? Thanks in advance. Bill Steele '99 M3 --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.