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#1. Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback - from Chris Teague
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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:01:14 -0700 From: Chris Teague <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback Bob, I'm mounting a set tommorrow for SCCA street tire AutoX use. One of the local guys has run them with good success. These are fantastic street tires. Rumor is these are being phased out, and a new version is on the way right now. That's probably why the rebate is on. Chris On Mar 20, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:23:10 EDT > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback > > Group, > > I don't want to start another tire war, but I'm looking for low > cost, decent > street tires (I do my racing on the weekends and not on street tires). > Thinking about the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone on the list have > these or tried > these? Did you like them, hate them? Right now the price from > TireRack looks > pretty good and there is a $50.00 rebate to boot. > > TIA, > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback - from Matt Bader
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:15:55 -0400 From: Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback Would these tires be ok for an occasional driving school? I am looking for tires myself, mainly for street but occasional track use. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware Chris Teague wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:01:14 -0700 > From: Chris Teague <cteague@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback > > Bob, > > I'm mounting a set tommorrow for SCCA street tire AutoX use. One of > the local guys has run them with good success. These are fantastic > street tires. Rumor is these are being phased out, and a new version > is on the way right now. That's probably why the rebate is on. > > Chris > > On Mar 20, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:23:10 EDT >> From: Mdriver13@aol.com >> Subject: Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback >> >> Group, >> >> I don't want to start another tire war, but I'm looking for low cost, >> decent >> street tires (I do my racing on the weekends and not on street tires). >> Thinking about the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone on the list have >> these or tried >> these? Did you like them, hate them? Right now the price from >> TireRack looks >> pretty good and there is a $50.00 rebate to boot. >> >> TIA, >> >> Bob Gill >> 97 ///M3 > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - New Version - from Matt Bader
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:23:27 -0400 From: Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - New Version I think the new tire is the Direzza Sport Z1, previously a tire offered only in Japan. According to Road and Track "With a UTQG rating of 200, the Z1 qualifies for many classes of competition that allow only street tires, such as street stock. Large tread blocks and an optimized mold design keep the contact patch consistent on the ground, no matter the load. ... The Direzza will be available in early summer 2008..." Matt Bader Chris Teague wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:01:14 -0700 > From: Chris Teague <cteague@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback > > Bob, > > I'm mounting a set tommorrow for SCCA street tire AutoX use. One of > the local guys has run them with good success. These are fantastic > street tires. Rumor is these are being phased out, and a new version > is on the way right now. That's probably why the rebate is on. > > Chris > > On Mar 20, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:23:10 EDT >> From: Mdriver13@aol.com >> Subject: Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback >> >> Group, >> >> I don't want to start another tire war, but I'm looking for low cost, >> decent >> street tires (I do my racing on the weekends and not on street tires). >> Thinking about the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone on the list have >> these or tried >> these? Did you like them, hate them? Right now the price from >> TireRack looks >> pretty good and there is a $50.00 rebate to boot. >> >> TIA, >> >> Bob Gill >> 97 ///M3 > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback - from Doug Wirth
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Wirth <doug_wirth@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback I got a free set of these at Ofest last fall. I ran the fastest time of any BMW at the auto-x (LS1 e36 excluded with 315 Hoosiers) There were several race cars as well as cars on R-comps. They are very sticky for a street tire with wide tread blocks. I have also run these in the rain and found them to have very good traction. The next set of street tires I get will be these tires. They are obviously not going to be as fast as an r-comp in most situations, I am just chalking Ofest up to my great driving :) Doug ----- Original Message ---- From: Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 6:22:39 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:15:55 -0400 From: Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback Would these tires be ok for an occasional driving school? I am looking for tires myself, mainly for street but occasional track use. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware Chris Teague wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:01:14 -0700 > From: Chris Teague <cteague@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback > > Bob, > > I'm mounting a set tommorrow for SCCA street tire AutoX use. One of > the local guys has run them with good success. These are fantastic > street tires. Rumor is these are being phased out, and a new version > is on the way right now. That's probably why the rebate is on. > > Chris > > On Mar 20, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:23:10 EDT >> From: Mdriver13@aol.com >> Subject: Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback >> >> Group, >> >> I don't want to start another tire war, but I'm looking for low cost, >> decent >> street tires (I do my racing on the weekends and not on street tires). >> Thinking about the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone on the list have >> these or tried >> these? Did you like them, hate them? Right now the price from >> TireRack looks >> pretty good and there is a $50.00 rebate to boot. >> >> TIA, >> >> Bob Gill >> 97 ///M3 > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback - from Matt Bader
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:22:04 -0400 From: Matt Bader <mbader@exammaster.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Interesting, sounds good. I posted separately what I believe is the replacement tire, which also got good reviews.<br> <br> Good job at the autox!<br> <br> Matt<br> <br> Doug Wirth wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:182812.69094.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com" type="cite"> <style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <p>I got a free set of these at Ofest last fall. I ran the fastest time of any BMW at the auto-x (LS1 e36 excluded with 315 Hoosiers) There were several race cars as well as cars on R-comps. They are very sticky for a street tire with wide tread blocks. I have also run these in the rain and found them to have very good traction.</p> <p> </p> <p>The next set of street tires I get will be these tires. </p> <p> </p> <p>They are obviously not going to be as fast as an r-comp in most situations, I am just chalking Ofest up to my great driving :)</p> <div><br> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div>Doug </div> </div> </div> </div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;"><br> <br> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;">----- Original Message ----<br> From: Matt Bader <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mbader@exammaster.com"><mbader@exammaster.com></a><br> To: E36M3 <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e36m3@bmw-m.net"><e36m3@bmw-m.net></a><br> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 6:22:39 AM<br> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback<br> <br> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:15:55 -0400<br> From: Matt Bader <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mbader@exammaster.com" ymailto="mailto:mbader@exammaster.com">mbader@exammaster.com</a>><br> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback<br> <br> Would these tires be ok for an occasional driving school? I am looking <br> for tires myself, mainly for street but occasional track use.<br> <br> Matt Bader<br> 98 M3/4<br> Delaware<br> <br> Chris Teague wrote:<br> > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:01:14 -0700<br> > From: Chris Teague <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cteague@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:cteague@cox.net">cteague@cox.net</a>><br> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback<br> ><br> > Bob,<br> ><br> > I'm mounting a set tommorrow for SCCA street tire AutoX use. One of <br> > the local guys has run them with good success. These are fantastic <br> > street tires. Rumor is these are being phased out, and a new version <br> > is on the way right now. That's probably why the rebate is on.<br> ><br> > Chris<br> ><br> > On Mar 20, 2008, at 6:32 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Mdriver13@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:Mdriver13@aol.com">Mdriver13@aol.com</a> wrote:<br> ><br> >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:23:10 EDT<br> >> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Mdriver13@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:Mdriver13@aol.com">Mdriver13@aol.com</a><br> >> Subject: Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback<br> >><br> >> Group,<br> >><br> >> I don't want to start another tire war, but I'm looking for low cost, <br> >> decent<br> >> street tires (I do my racing on the weekends and not on street tires).<br> >> Thinking about the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone on the list have <br> >> these or tried<br> >> these? Did you like them, hate them? Right now the price from <br> >> TireRack looks<br> >> pretty good and there is a $50.00 rebate to boot.<br> >><br> >> TIA,<br> >><br> >> Bob Gill<br> >> 97 ///M3<br> ><br> ><br> > *************************************************<br> > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors:<br> ><br> > Bimmerworld <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.bimmerworld.com/" target="_blank">http://www.bimmerworld.com</a><br> > Turner Motorsport <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.turnermotorsport.com/" target="_blank">http://www.turnermotorsport.com</a><br> > Eurosport High Performance <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com/" target="_blank">http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com</a><br> > Rogue Engineering <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.rogueengineering.com/" target="_blank">http://www.rogueengineering.com</a><br> > Treehouse Racing <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.treehouseracing.com/" target="_blank">http://www.treehouseracing.com</a><br> > Elephant Motorsports Inc. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.elephantmotorsports.com/" target="_blank">http://www.elephantmotorsports.com</a><br> ><br> > DIGEST INFORMATION:<br> > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm" target="_blank">http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm</a><br> > *************************************************<br> ><br> ><br> <br> <br> *************************************************<br> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors:<br> <br> Bimmerworld <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.bimmerworld.com/" target="_blank">http://www.bimmerworld.com</a><br> Turner Motorsport <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.turnermotorsport.com/" target="_blank">http://www.turnermotorsport.com</a><br> Eurosport High Performance <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com/" target="_blank">http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com</a><br> Rogue Engineering <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.rogueengineering.com/" target="_blank">http://www.rogueengineering.com</a><br> Treehouse Racing <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.treehouseracing.com/" target="_blank">http://www.treehouseracing.com</a><br> Elephant Motorsports Inc. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.elephantmotorsports.com/" target="_blank">http://www.elephantmotorsports.com</a><br> <br> DIGEST INFORMATION:<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm" target="_blank">http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm</a><br> *************************************************<br> <br> <br> </div> <br> </div> </div> </blockquote> </body> </html>
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback - from Bill and Jan Klemme
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:42:38 -0400 From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback You did this with your M5?!! You MUST be a good driver.... =-O Nice job, Bill K Doug Wirth wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:23:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: Doug Wirth <doug_wirth@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback > > I got a free set of these at Ofest last fall. I ran the fastest time of any BMW at the auto-x (LS1 e36 excluded with 315 Hoosiers) There were several race cars as well as cars on R-comps. They are very sticky for a street tire with wide tread blocks. I have also run these in the rain and found them to have very good traction. > > The next set of street tires I get will be these tires. > > They are obviously not going to be as fast as an r-comp in most situations, I am just chalking Ofest up to my great driving :) > > > Doug >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback - from Bill and Jan Klemme
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:46:55 -0400 From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback M5? ummm, ha ha, wrong group...sorry I thought I was, well you know, sometimes I don't pay attention. With an M3 I am not at all surprised. Bill K > > >
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:03:57 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback Just to clarify guys, Dunlop has 2 tires that sound similar. The Direzza Sport Z1 is the Extreme performance street (ST-class autocross) tire, now discontinued and replaced with the Z1 Star Spec. The DZ101 is the real street tire, not meant for autocross. Paul Andrews 98 M3/4 # 42 STU -----Original Message----- From: Chris Teague [mailto:cteague@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:03 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:01:14 -0700 From: Chris Teague <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback Bob, I'm mounting a set tommorrow for SCCA street tire AutoX use. One of the local guys has run them with good success. These are fantastic street tires. Rumor is these are being phased out, and a new version is on the way right now. That's probably why the rebate is on. Chris On Mar 20, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:23:10 EDT > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback > > Group, > > I don't want to start another tire war, but I'm looking for low > cost, decent > street tires (I do my racing on the weekends and not on street tires). > Thinking about the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone on the list have > these or tried > these? Did you like them, hate them? Right now the price from > TireRack looks > pretty good and there is a $50.00 rebate to boot. > > TIA, > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3
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#9. Goodyear F1's - from shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:04:30 -0400 From: shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Goodyear F1's All this tire talk and I just got my new BBS 18" CH's that need tires.? I can get Goodyear F1's (all season) for $170 mounted and balanced plus a $50 mail in rebate.? They have a 420 treadwear and A temp A tract rating.? Seem to be a fair deal and compromise for wear / performance.? I doubt I'd ever Auto X with these wheels or tires as I have a set of 17" SSR's with stickly tires.? anyone have a position on these tires either way if used for spiritied driving. Shel Hart 1995 M3 2005 330CI
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback - from Doug Wirth
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:36:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Wirth <doug_wirth@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback 99 M3 Doug ----- Original Message ---- From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:52:40 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:42:38 -0400 From: Bill and Jan Klemme <wklemme@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback You did this with your M5?!! You MUST be a good driver.... =-O Nice job, Bill K Doug Wirth wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:23:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: Doug Wirth <doug_wirth@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Dunlop Direzza DZ101 - feedback > > I got a free set of these at Ofest last fall. I ran the fastest time of any BMW at the auto-x (LS1 e36 excluded with 315 Hoosiers) There were several race cars as well as cars on R-comps. They are very sticky for a street tire with wide tread blocks. I have also run these in the rain and found them to have very good traction. > > The next set of street tires I get will be these tires. > > They are obviously not going to be as fast as an r-comp in most situations, I am just chalking Ofest up to my great driving :) > > > Doug > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#11. HP Calculation - from kjk
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:39:43 -0700 (PDT) From: kjk <quierom5@yahoo.com> Subject: HP Calculation I have a friend that makes the argument that drivetrain loss stays fixed. If it is 60 hp, it is 60 hp with 300 hp or 350hp. Seems to make sense. Kevin Kelly '95 M3 '91 M5 '00 323iT ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs